Nobody thinks the experience is identical.

Print books are rather newfangled. The printing press wasn’t even invented until 1450. The first stories, including scripture, were told, not printed. And even stories that were written out by hand had limited reach. But just about every village had someone to relate histories and folktales. Now, as then, the storyteller (narrator) can enhance or detract from the experience.

Most audiobook listeners will also read print and electronic media if they don’t have issues with vision. I’m flexible.

"Listening to an audiobook isn't even close to the same experience as reading a book. "

Studies suggest basically the same regions of the brain are activated during conventional reading and listening to an audiobook. Retention of information is also pretty comparable.

"I don't say this in judgment of those who listen to audiobooks. "

No, you just say it in ignorance and condescension which is so much better.

"I'm glad you've found something you enjoy."

I'm glad you feel the pompous need to try to squelch that joy in others.

"When people are talking about how great or terrible the audiobook is, I often find that it has no relation at all to the experience of reading the book. "

Maybe it has no relation to you, but for other people it might. I find I become more aware of the rhythm and sound and general lyricism of stories when listening to an audiobook compared to conventional reading. Alliteration, consonance, assonance, etc. all are more noticeable to me when I listen to an audiobook than when I read a conventional book. The first stories were meant to be listened to, not read. So audiobooks put us back in touch with the ancient roots of storytelling.

"Many times, they even admit that the narration is a large reason for their enjoyment."

It's part of the enjoyment but not the only enjoyment. Plot, characterization, setting, theme, prose, etc. are all also factors in people's enjoyment. A narrator might enhance a person's enjoyment of a story the same as seeing Othello performed might increase someone's enjoyment of reading the script. Narrators can sometimes add an extra flair or flavor to the book or help people hear the story told in an authentic accent. Sometimes too an audiobook allows readers to experience the story as read by the author. That is pretty cool for a lot of people.

"Listeners of audiobooks also probably get a little annoyed when people are talking about books that don't have an audiobook version. "

Many people who listen to audiobooks also read print and/or ebooks. Some people like myself even have Kindle or print versions of books as well as owning the audiobook. Even those who listen to audiobooks exclusively will just find something else to listen to.

"Or worse, a great book everyone who reads is fawning over, only to find that the audiobook has a terrible narrator."

That's why I listen to samples on Audible and only get audiobooks with good narrators. Books with narrators that don't appeal to me, I will just read in another format (print, ebook, etc).

It's easy to take advantage of all the different reading formats available to me in the twenty-first century.

Hi there. This subject has been very popular in the past. Please use reddit search and/or check the /r/books/wiki/faq.

In my opinion, a book is a book, no matter the medium. Paper pages, Kindle or similar, app on phone, audiobook, they all have their place in telling a story, and the method of delivering that story is subject to the consumer’s needs at that moment.

Arthritic hands? Kindle or other electronic reader. Unexpected delay at the bank? Open the app on your phone. Cross-country road trip? Audiobook through the car’s speakers.

There are times an audiobook can enhance the story. I’m specifically referring to Wier’s “Project Hail Mary,” in which the secondary character’s speech patterns are interpreted audibly by the narrator and sound effects.

The best thing about free speech is that we can all have an opinion. Yours is that audiobooks have no place in a book subreddit. Mine is that the story is what’s important and therefore audiobooks have a place here.

I can't tell from this post if you have ever actually listened to one or not. More than one, preferably, before you make some sort of judgment on the entire format.

As someone who never felt the need to try audiobooks then got a job driving for hours every day...audiobooks are definitely comparable to reading, in that - once you adjust to them (and of course, there will be people who just can't get used to them) - the story goes into your brain, just as it would from a book. I often would listen in the car and then get home and continue reading on paper (or ebook). Once I finished the book, I could not tell you which parts I listened to and which I read with my eyeballs.

Is it a slightly different interpretation? Maybe, but my interpretation of any story, however I receive it, will be different from yours. It can even be different depending on what mood I'm in, how old I am, whether I've seen a movie adaptation first, or heard it talked about.

Was I influenced by the narrator when it comes to inflections or emotions? Maybe. But that doesn't mean the narrator's interpretation was wrong, or that it was different from what I would have come up with myself. And I've even disagreed with the reading of a line or scene - which means I'm still absorbing the story and coming to my own conclusions.

Reading a book is receiving a story (or non-fiction) from the author. Reading fiction is storytelling from one person to another, with a system that allows for many, many people to receive it rather than having to be told face-to-face - the original form of storytelling was verbal.

Listening to a story may be slightly different, but it's no less valid. A person who has listened to a book has every right to discuss the contents/message they found in it with people who read the book with their eyes. There is already a sub for audiobooks - mostly people use it to discuss narrators, versions, delivery methods, etc.

If people want to discuss a book, this sub should welcome them no matter how the contents were uploaded into their brains.