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Ineffable7980x t1_iubck8y wrote
Same
Lae_Zel t1_iuaguuc wrote
>The issue with Goodreads is that it makes reading an achievement.
Nobody forces you to use that feature.
Goodreads has wonderful recommandations and great book lists. The website is worth it just for that.
pablos_blueperiod t1_iuagzvn wrote
This is definitely what I use it for! Love the recommendations and the previews.
helvetiq t1_iuajaxz wrote
I find be the recommendations awful- it almost exclusively recommends me books by authors I've read one book by and given 2* to. Maybe it's just me.
Necessary_Disk t1_iubmfza wrote
Agreed. I looked at the recommendations for a while but then stopped because they were terrible. Always the same books and never anything I actually wanted to read. They also often didn't seem to have anything to do with what I read besides a very very general genre correlation.
witchinwinter t1_iuc247v wrote
Same, horrible recommendations but I still use it religiously, especially to keep track of what I am reading. I keep forgetting the books I read so this makes it easier for me keep track.
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Puzzleheaded-Loan-60 t1_iuakssx wrote
If it’s an addiction to you and makes you to read as a job and not for your entertainment - you made a good call to stop using it. However there are people like me who are motivated to read by it:) Goodreads helped me to return to reading books. I just don’t set my goals too high.
jefrye t1_iuasr9d wrote
OP, I think it might have been more helpful to frame your post less as "the problem with Goodreads is that it makes reading an achievement" and more as "tracking my reading turned it into a chore" (or however you want to qualify your experience).
Then people would be talking about their opinions on reading tracking, gamification, and motivation (which is what I think you were trying to discuss), instead of specifically why Goodreads is good or bad. Shame that's what people latched on to.
Vanessak69 t1_iualref wrote
I get it. I’ll get overly focused on my numbers or that I’m not reading as much as other people (“This year I read 201 books!” Wut?) I do still use it for various reasons even though there are better sites out there. If you still want to track what you’ve read, maybe you could look into one of those.
P.S. GR just implemented their redesign and it’s kind of shit so rejoice that you are missing that.
NubbyNob t1_iuaomc1 wrote
Yes, the redesign sucks. I wish you could choose which layout you wanted.
Potatoskins937492 t1_iubjbiw wrote
That shows a lot of introspection and strength to figure out that something has become a negative part of your life and that you needed to remove the source of the negativity. It can happen with all different things, even things some of us wouldn't even consider being toxic in some way. Our brains are all different and knowing when yours was creating an addictive attachment to something that was negative for you is pretty darn smart. I didn't give up traditional social media until it almost killed me. It's not the same as alcohol or gambling, but addictive behaviors can make us unhappy or unhealthy and stopping them shouldn't get anyone downvotes. So boo to those people. Good for you for knowing where a limitation stands for you in this particular instance. Maybe someone else will realize the same thing is happening to them and sharing your experience will help.
jefrye t1_iuarnzi wrote
Yep, I mainly use it for the reviewing aspect and also to plan my reading list.
I've posted before to share my tips and tricks for getting the most out of the site—there are a ton of extremely helpful but hidden features that a lot people don't realize exist.
Puzzleheaded-Loan-60 t1_iuakecl wrote
But I use Goodreads exactly to have the achievements D: it feels good to add books, stockpile them in your big digital library and than neatly add by years when you read. And bonus point - it does not take physical space. So basically it’s a matter of preference. You don’t need to use this feature.
kendradrawsthings t1_iuao66x wrote
Agreed! I like the annual reading challenge as well
Puzzleheaded-Loan-60 t1_iuapj1r wrote
Yeah! And also it’s fun to watch back what you have read! And all the statistics.
ctopherrun t1_iubhhhr wrote
Setting up a goal has helped me keep reading. Sometimes I start goofing off on my phone and remember I need to catch up on my book goals. It's also awesome being able to look at my year in review and remember all the books I'd read that year.
Matrim_WoT t1_iuarmo9 wrote
I use Goodreads and I don't share your experiences. I use it to log the books that I read so I can remember what I have read. I also use it to read reviews for books I'm interested in. I probably only log in once every few weeks.
In my opinion, reading becoming a contest for achievement goes well beyond Goodreads. I see it on this subreddit and other forms of social media where reading has turned into a lifestyle of buying books just to have a library, reading X amount of books a year, etc..
At the end of the day, I think it is personal to everyone and I'm glad you've realized that Goodreads is causing you to view reading as something you do to cross something off a list.
JeanVigilante t1_iub1zqp wrote
>I use it to log the books that I read so I can remember what I have read. I also use it to read reviews for books I'm interested in.
This. I read a lot and before I started using Goodreads to track, I'd often buy or check out a book I'd already read or bought.
akira2bee t1_iubd9o3 wrote
Yeah, tbh this is something I mainly have a problem with insta and tiktok for, because a lot of that relies on "aesthetic" of reading OR on constantly being "in the know" about what books are trending/popular.
I don't use Goodreads, instead I use StoryGraph, mainly because Amazon sucks, but I also love StoryGraph's feature of breaking down what you read into moods, pages, fiction vs nonfiction, etc.
I also use it for the logging aspect, mainly because I've read so many books in my life that I'd like to keep track of them somehow, though there are still some I'll never remember the name of
And I like the tracking feature as someone with ADHD, because while reading shouldn't be a chore, it should be fun, ADHD can easily make all fun things, chore-like with executive dysfunction so this actually helps me keep my personal goals a lot.
Sorry, I got away from myself haha
Tldr: i agree
IngenuityPositive123 t1_iuafyw1 wrote
I stopped using it because I was too lazy to bother lol
Melvins_lobos t1_iuafcs9 wrote
Great insight. Feel like I’m racing to finish books just so I can claim I’ve read it
TheXrasengan t1_iuatryo wrote
What you are describing feels more like a problem with your use of Goodreads, rather than the website itself. There are other, much bigger, problems with Goodreads: the reviews are hit-or-miss, the community is very biased towards certain authors and genres, Amazon owns it, and some of its key features (keeping track of books, book recommendations, book lists) are mediocre at best.
The only thing for which I find Goodreads useful nowadays is searching books to find their synopsis, page count and ISBN. If you are looking for a better website to keep track of your books, try Libib. It's far from perfect but it allows you to keep track of your books, has a decent UI, is not owned by Amazon and has no public review system (which I see as a pro, rather than a con). Unfortunately, it doesn't do book recommendations.
Necessary_Disk t1_iubmsa3 wrote
I like story graph. It's also fun to see the pie graphs that tell me what types of books I gravitate towards.
lovelikemeow t1_iuap737 wrote
I don't use goodreads because I deeply don't need my high school classmates go see all my gang bang gay romance novels.
Jack-Campin t1_iuahh8m wrote
It has reviews which are sometimes okay, a rating system I totally ignore, and if I read you correctly, a piechart thingy that I didn't know existed (and I'm not going to look for it).
If it had a much simpler interface that did nothing but string reviews together I'd look much more often.
darwinwoodka t1_iuahxtd wrote
As anyone who has been forced to do book reports or meet a reading quota for school knows, reading should be a pleasure and not a chore. For my kids though it was mostly a complaint about having to read the stupid assigned 100 page book instead of the 500 page novel they were currently devouring...
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OssianPrime t1_iuaqrmp wrote
Totally get what you mean. During covid lockdown I made the mistake of starting a list of every book I finished. I soon caught myself favouring shorter books to help me meet my arbitrary target for the year. Stopped the list and am much happier. The human brain is an idiot.
Dunkin_Ideho t1_iuaio2l wrote
I use goodreads to get reviews before I read books as we all have limited time. I feel that if I’m going to use it, I should contribute as well.
ShowMeYourHappyTrail t1_iuao8gn wrote
As someone with three very time-consuming hobbies...I love that Goodreads helps keep me reading even when I'd rather be playing my video games or doing my stitching.
eschuylerhamilton t1_iuaqovp wrote
I <3 Goodreads. I use it all the time.
Sea-Gold t1_iubqk3w wrote
Hey OP, I hear you. I stopped doing a yearly reading challenge for similar reasons a few years ago. I still sometimes give myself a hard time because I haven't read as many books as my ego thinks I should have by this time of the year. I also do not love how every time I finish a book I get excited to mark it as "Read" on the website and that is sometimes what motivates me to keep reading a book. I just want to get back to the feeling I had as a kid where I loved reading because it was simply enjoyable and not something to track. That said, I don't know what else to do because I love the social aspect of it and it is my only social media other than reddit.
walknyeti t1_iuam0ca wrote
It keeps me on track to read as much as I can ; when I want to listen to a mindless podcast I crank out a chapter or two on audio , I go back and forth between audio and kindle on most books I read. But not afraid to say F off to a book I hate. I was close with The Troop but I trudged onward in Halloween spirit
No_Passenger_4081 t1_iuaofj0 wrote
hehe I stopped because I was sick of people I disliked stalking what I read, so I switched to storygraph instead because I enjoy the statistics.
Necessary_Disk t1_iubmzc0 wrote
Story graph is really fun. I like it a lot.
nyet-marionetka t1_iubt5qk wrote
I use Goodreads because a friend does, and it reduces the “what was that book again??” problem. If it’s stressing you, don’t use it.
bus_garage707 t1_iubvtqh wrote
Before I started using Goodreads I once purchased the same book three times because I didn’t remember that I had already read it until I started reading it.
Despail t1_iuay4kv wrote
I use it just as wishlist in steam, nothing with achievement
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bumblebeetunaNZ t1_iub7v6v wrote
I really only use Goodreads to keep a list of ‘to read’ books
MorriganJade t1_iubdecp wrote
I got it because it was easier than writing down all the books in a notebook but whenever friends want to do those competitions or how many books etc I always say no like why would you do that, it would just take the joy out if reading. especially when I love rereading but obviously that doesn't count in the number of books. I'm not very happy about how you said it's owned by amazon, I hope they can't look at it and send me ads or something
Spare-Cauliflower-92 t1_iuau4tj wrote
I've found Goodreads works pretty okay for me - the recommendations are often poor but as someone with limited physical shelf-space (and frankly a poor memory for books I've read more than a couple of months ago) being able to leave a review just to remind myself what I liked or didn't is really helpful. Plus I find the 'want-to-read' list incredibly helpful, I have over 100 books on the list and would totally forget books I'm recommended otherwise! I do get what you mean though about page counting, personally I've always been a bit of a page counter Goodreads or not, but it doesn't affect which books I choose or how fast I read them so it doesn't bother me. It's more of a 'wow, I'm really enjoying this book!" if I notice I'm reading a book faster or more frequently
malcontented t1_iuauttk wrote
I like it to see what my friends and family are reading. But what’s wrong with tracking how many books you read. Reading adds knowledge and experiences you can see that as being an achievement without it being a negative
theaudacityofthi t1_iuav3on wrote
My problem with goodreads is that I rely too much on their reviews and I could miss out on books I could actually enjoy just because I might be put off by some of the reviews. Though a lot of the negative reviews I was reading were right to be fair.
PesticideDream t1_iub7ist wrote
I just use it for the Reading Challenge, but I ain’t gonna beat myself up if I don’t reach my numbers, especially considering how variable lengths of books are. Like I have a few easy 200-something pagers in there but I’m also currently reading a book that’s over 1000 pages so it’s whatever. I don’t care about any of its social aspects, but I do kind of like some of the book lists people create.
It’s just an app that you can easily delete, don’t give it power over your life or hobbies.
svevobandini t1_iubwclw wrote
Huh. I just look at it as a back up list. I don't think about it for months at a time, and then add the last 5-10 books and move on.
If it becomes what you're describing, that's no good, but you definitely do not need to use it that way.
ExistentialReckning t1_iuc0tri wrote
I'm not a natural reader. I didn't read a book cover to cover until my mid 20s (yes I just lied my way through every book report and reading assignment through school). I read (non-fiction only) for about 2 years during my lunch breaks only because I worked out of town. This was in the pre-smartphones days.
I started reading again about 4 years ago as a mid-life crisis. With the political atmosphere in America, pundits and media were making references such as the "Orwellian times" we were living in, and I didn't get the references because I'd never read the books. I felt at my age I should be more aware, engaged and "cultured", so I started reading those books. My interest waned for about 6 months during that time, but otherwise I've been fairly avidly reading.
So, for me, given my overall lack of natural interest in reading anf historical lack of doing so, I do view each book as an accomplishment. I do look at the bookmark marching through the book with a sense of achievement. I just started using Goodreads this year to track every book I read, and I look forward to logging the accomplishment each time I finish a book.
failurescape t1_iucd6u0 wrote
In fairness, I somewhat doubt some of these pundits understand what they're alluding to with "Orwellian" either.
ExistentialReckning t1_iud523a wrote
I read an article once where the headline was something like "Lord of the Flies Plays Out Inside Trump's Inner Circle" and then what the author went on to describe was nothing like Lord of the Flies.
But, had I not read Lord of the Flies, I wouldn't have known that. So in the moment I felt like my purpose was achieved.
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vividgreene t1_iuc279m wrote
I have no friends on goodreads so maybe that helps me keep it pretty chill on there. I have a terrible memory so my favorite feature is just keeping track of all the books I want to read.
I am thankful you posted this because I had no idea it was owned by Amazon! I try to avoid them whenever possible so I will be switching over to StoryGraph ASAP.
rahul_pati t1_iuc2yjy wrote
I use Goodreads to keep a track of the books I've read, want to read and books I've DNFd. I have set a reading challenge for myself this year for the first time and am also getting into a habit of writing reviews so that I can think and articulate better the things that I liked/disliked about a book. I mostly get my recommendations from various subreddits and mark those as 'want to read' on Goodreads. The reviews on Goodreads are a hit/miss and so is the rating system.
I don't obsess too much over updating regular progress of a book I am reading on Goodreads. Setting up a reading challenge for myself has actually helped me read more and get back into reading instead of wasting time on social media. Also, nowadays I DNF a book very quickly if it isn't working for me and move on to the next book. Doesn't make sense to me to obsessively complete a book just for stats. I add such book to my DNF shelf and add a small review as to why I DNFd it, so I can remember later.
It's all about perspective and how we use any tool/platform. If someone is obsessed over tracking progress, then that can be done through spreadsheet too, the app just makes it easier. Every app/platform is made to be as addictive as possible to make the users spend more time/money on it. It's upto us to use them judiciously to our advantage.
savage_northener t1_iuc5vp2 wrote
That's a feature of contemporary social media: measurement and reward. If happens with likes, achievements, upvotes and progress markers.
We enjoy these instantaneous and gamified tokens. And sometimes they do make the process less rewarding than the virtual token itself.
Some people don't have this problem, but if it reach the point where our reward systems are getting confused, it might be healthier to simply abandon the platform and seek less stimulating ways of tracking information, like you did.
I abandoned Instagram, for instance, and felt much better for that.
NewStart2023 t1_iuc72bh wrote
The reviews are the only problem, too many ppl who seem to make their life writing long winded "witty" type reviews. Not sure why ppl follow them or look to them whether or not to read a book I'm sure the majority like myself, simply use it to track which books they have and haven't read.
PumPumPuddha t1_iub622k wrote
You make some very valid points and I’m glad you shared them. The only thing I’ve used GR for is to look at a few reviews here and there. I read books as though I consume a meal. I enjoy it while it lasts, and then I move on.
DarkObserver0457 t1_iubpsh7 wrote
I like using GoodReads. Let’s me know how many books I’ve read in the past year. I add what I’m reading, which is usually 4-5 books at a time, and only go back to update that I’m done or add a new one. As far as the reading challenge, you don’t have to bother with it if you don’t want to. It’s optional.
ChargeBackForwardP t1_iubrvu2 wrote
I've always had a problem with the way Goodreads users appreciate books. The literary discourse had basically boiled down to hyperbolic praise and people listing tropes. Goodreads is ground zero for the nuclear cringe that is BookTok/Tube.
entropynchaos t1_iubteci wrote
I’ve always kept track of the books I read. Goodreads allows me to do it automatically. I don’t really use it except to find out about books, read reviews, and keep a list of books I’ve read. It never feels like a race or achievement to me, just a list. I do set the challenge each year; but I set it at the rate at which I read, not in order to challenge myself to read more than normal. I don’t find the interface hard to use though, either; I find it very intuitive. I’m very word oriented so it works for me. I don’t use the community aspect of goodreads at all unless you count reading reviews.
FewDescription7730 t1_iubu09f wrote
What I do is make a list of books every time I finish them, and chuck them all into goodreads at the start of the year
MischievousCarrot t1_iubu27z wrote
If this was gachas instead of books you'd be a prime whale.
widgetmama t1_iubu2v6 wrote
You just made me glad that I've never bothered with it.
civilwar142pa t1_iubz635 wrote
I don't have that issue. I'm absolutely curious about how many books ive read in a year, though. I mostly use it to make sure I'm not picking up a book I've already read and to discover new books based on past books I've liked or authors I've enjoyed.
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ConfusedApostrophe t1_iuc2o52 wrote
This is the same with social media. If you're posting it, you're doing it for validation not because it is something that you appreciate.
Dontfalafel t1_iuc4w6t wrote
Umm some of us have to use Goodreads because we can't remember which books we read.
AntoniGizmo t1_iuc54ml wrote
I have seen it become this way for a lot of people! I think it is great that you had the self-awareness to remedy it.
I still use goodreads but I always start a book by setting my intention. Am I reading this for an escape? Is it academic? Etc that helped me a lot.
Pawneewafflesarelife t1_iuc6hpc wrote
Tbh, I always forget about Goodreads until it pops up at the end of an ebook and I accidentally dismiss it. I think I'm currently "reading" like 20-odd books on there.
maraudingnomad t1_iuca8vy wrote
I use goodreads to keep count, but I am not really affected by it to the point of finishing a book being more important than the booknitself. I feel like the ratings are misleading. People can read a slog with exciting last 50 pages and they will rate it highly because the last thing they remember is that last part. I guess that's why mistborn is so popular. I admit, the endings are thrillimg but the buildup did little for me in book 2 and 3. The 1st was OK.
CarinaConstellation t1_iue51jk wrote
I get it. I found myself finishing books I don't like because I want to have one more "read' book. I think it's good that you are setting boundaries and rethinking websites that don't serve you. After all, the point is to read for enjoyment, anything less is less important.
Paddlesons t1_iuc57lb wrote
Holy shit, you probably need some therapy.
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Tea_4_thee t1_iuakbg4 wrote
This honestly isn’t a problem for me, my enjoyment in the books I read doesn’t change just because I track them/don’t track them.