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Hellblazer1138 t1_itnbd73 wrote

Reply to comment by Fafnir26 in Anyone else finding the Politics of Starship Troopers troubling? by Fafnir26

I haven't downvoted anything here myself but I think it's because you're admittingly coming at it with an opinion fully formed without taking the time to read the book to the end.

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Fafnir26 OP t1_itnbz4x wrote

So what? Should I assume a child beater has some ingenious way of justifying his ideology just because his fans like him?? AGAIN, I´ve read some of the most relevant passages.

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Hellblazer1138 t1_itnd1r1 wrote

So, you've read some sentences in the book and think you know everything about it? You've got to teach me that trick.

You know the main goal of science fiction is to ask questions and draw ideas out to their extremes? That is what Heinlein is doing in the book. He isn't saying that the government in the book is how things should be but how they could turn out. I'd say you should just read the book for yourself but I'm sure at this point you'll only see what you want to see no matter what is there.

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Fafnir26 OP t1_itne4nf wrote

Believe me, I am trying to keep an open mind, but some people make it rather difficult.

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And the thread is closed. Too negative. So how am I going to have an honest discussion about this???

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Hellblazer1138 t1_itnf702 wrote

That annoyed me too.

But seriously, you can't read most sci-fi as and avocation of the ideas in the stories. Authors like Heinlein, Asimov and Philip K. Dick loved taking ideas and extrapolation what the future would be like if certain things persisted.

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Fafnir26 OP t1_itnfuej wrote

Ok, thats seems like a good tip. Maybe that´ll help me keep an open mind. So is the book a fun read or just aggravating if you are a leftist?

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Hellblazer1138 t1_itnhphi wrote

I didn't find it aggravating. I didn't love the main character but I didn't hate him. He's a naïve kid at the start and you're along for his growth. It's sort of geared towards young adults/teens since he was coming off from writing mostly juveniles which are more like Boy Scouts in space.

Some of those juveniles are excellent, like Citizen of the Galaxy & Tunnel in the Sky.

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Fafnir26 OP t1_itniior wrote

Okay, I think you convinced me. Might just give it a shot when I can´t stop thinking about it, have such strong feelings about it and the writing is good.

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