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Born-Anybody3244 t1_j2b3no6 wrote

Reply to comment by NeoSeth in Does Don Winslow introduce endless female characters just to write explicitly about their bodies and sex lives? by hammnbubbly

Had this super annoying conversation with my mum over Christmas where she was arguing that the depiction of insest & rape of minors in the game of thrones tv series was "essential" to the plot and wouldn't be realistic without it. I don't watch the series but my cousin said there was a sex/rape scene in the new spinoff featuring actress who is only 16 or 17. My mum for the life of her could not understand why I would be against depicting sexual violence in TV shows for the sake of making the story more "realistic".

Like...we get it, and you can allude to these things without focussing on them.

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Papaofmonsters t1_j2b6ucp wrote

>Had this super annoying conversation with my mum over Christmas where she was arguing that the depiction of insest & rape of minors in the game of thrones tv series was "essential" to the plot and wouldn't be realistic without it

Incest is kind of essential to the plot when it revolves around a family that has wed brother to sister for centuries.

>I don't watch the series but my cousin said there was a sex/rape scene in the new spinoff featuring actress who is only 16 or 17.

If it's Milly Alcock, she's 22.

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Electronic_Basis7726 t1_j2cmrqk wrote

The actress was 22.

And honestly, Incest was essential to the plot of Game of Thrones, it is the incident that lead to the whole thing. Bran, and so the audience, had to see who were fucking, so that Jaime can push Bran from the window. If I remember correctly, it was clothed sex at well. Realistic? I mean, some noble families had interbreeding, humanity is weird.

In HotD the plot revolvs around a family that marries their close family, traditionally. I think realism is a bad argument here, but it also isn't a moral failing on part of show writers.

Can 16 y old (character) consent to an adult man? I mean, not really. The show isnt endorsing it by showing it though, and the adult man is a shady character so it isn't a case of "but the good guy is doing it". The scene was pretty artfully shot, it focused more on what the character's were feeling than straight up porn.

There absolutely is unnecessary sexual assault and nudity in GoT. I think you chose poor examples of it.

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Overtaker40 t1_j2c5zkf wrote

Find different content. Not everything has to be too your taste.

I mean fuck you don't even watch it. You shouldn't even give a shit.

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Born-Anybody3244 t1_j2cqamf wrote

So your taste is rape? Is that what you mean, cause...yikes

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SerBronn7 t1_j2fd434 wrote

Why is it worse for HBO to depict a rape scene than one where someone is flayed or eaten alive by dogs or burnt at the stake?

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Born-Anybody3244 t1_j2fofns wrote

How many people do you know who have been flayed alive?

Okay now how many people do you personally know who have been raped or sexually assaulted? I promise you it's a non-zero number even if they haven't trusted you enough to tell you about it.

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