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RailRoad_Candy t1_ix11vit wrote

In CA you pay a surcharge that goes directly to PG&E cuz you're not usign their power. Its not talked about.

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ThisIsForFood t1_ix1edv9 wrote

How come when anyone says “it’s not talked about” universally means they have no idea what they’re talking about.

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RailRoad_Candy t1_ix22att wrote

Its because its not talked about in CA from a political point of view. I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm a transplant. I was born and raised there, I still have family there, a whole bunch of friends, there. So, incase youre wondering, in a 2ksqft home in Solano County, you're going to average $500 a month for electricity, and thats only if you have solar. Why so high? Because you get what amounts to a fine that goes directly to PG&E because youre not using all of their electricity.

Please be aware that if your bill is ~$500, about $280 is what youre still paying for power because the solar is definitely not keeping up with the AC on 110 degree days.

But thanks for mentioning my phrasing. Are you also from CA? Care to share stories?,

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Anustart15 t1_ix2cdxj wrote

>Because you get what amounts to a fine that goes directly to PG&E because youre not using all of their electricity.

Not really. They have to charge you differently because you are paying for the benefit of grid access (which 99% of people absolutely require), but no longer pay for it through electricity use like everyone else on the grid

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imanze t1_ix2ty9x wrote

You don’t pay for grid access you pay for delivery and distribution. That cost is usually set per khw on top of the electrical rate. With solar you’d still almost always still be using grid power thus using both of those. If there is (i don’t know CA rules) an additional fee just for having solar that’s a bit fucked

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Yossarian465 t1_ix31kng wrote

They aren't supposed to be making money through just people using their electricity...so no they don't need to do that because they aren't losing money

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Anustart15 t1_ix3nuxs wrote

But they are also providing a very crucial service by providing grid access and maintaining the grid. If nobody paid for it's maintenance because everyone had solar, it would fail for everyone

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giritrobbins t1_ix8jigq wrote

Which is reasonable because you'd expect PD&E to provide power when solar isn't shining or available. Those lines to the house, that capacity aren't free.

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Yossarian465 t1_ix31gw2 wrote

The fact PG&E has been allowed to keep existing should have the entire states politicians behind bars

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