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mshelikoff t1_ixzdpba wrote

My view is that you're only considering primary effects with no consideration of secondary and tertiary impacts. In addition to not having any Walmarts around here, local governments should do all they can to not welcome or get rid of other big-parking-lot monsters from the last century like Home Depot and BJs Wholesale Club. They all have the net impact of delivering wealth from the poor to the already-super-rich.

How many decades does the local, regional, national, and global economy need to suffer from increasing inequality before people like you finally figure out that the key to helping working class folks is systemic change that intentionally decreases the Gini Coefficient instead of giving people the so-called-freedom to only throw money at the rich for daily essentials after all other options have disappeared?

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HoneydewOk1731 t1_ixzwhos wrote

Try explaining to a single mother buying diapers why she should care enough about the Gini coefficient to go spend more money somewhere else. Corporate leadership is paid too much. Aside from that, they are cheaper to consumers because they are more efficient with their resources. Environmentally and economically. Economies of scale and all that

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mshelikoff t1_iy0vfyu wrote

Yes, with modern systemic hypercapitalism and citizen powerlessness in the US, corporate leadership is paid too much. That's one part of the story. You forgot every other part of the story.

Investors and venture capitalists are also paid too much, and workers are paid too little. Those are other important parts of the story.

But the most important part of the story you forgot for your particular example of explanations to a single mother buying diapers about why she should care about the Gini coefficient is the complete absence of cash benefits in the US for being parents. Luxembourg, Belgium, Austria, Germany, Canada, Ireland, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, and France ALL pay THOUSANDS in cash each year to single mothers for being single mothers in addition to the free child care and the huge period of paid time off they receive if they choose to raise their kids in their own home without using the free child care.

Do you believe the single mothers in those civilized places are upset when they see American mothers paying a few pennies less for diapers in Walmart than they pay for local products when their local governments support them as parents instead of abandoning them?

Idiot.

If you don't even know what systemic change is then don't waste pixels arguing against it.

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HoneydewOk1731 t1_iy103w2 wrote

Alright your first point didn’t stick at all so now you are all over the place, assuming you know what I think about socialist policies

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mshelikoff t1_iy110x6 wrote

My first point:

> the key to helping working class folks is systemic change that intentionally decreases the Gini Coefficient

Your blathering idiocy:

> Try explaining to a single mother buying diapers why she should care enough about the Gini coefficient to go spend more money somewhere else.

My second point:

> If you don't even know what systemic change is then don't waste pixels arguing against it.

You think my first point didn't stick because you don't seem able to read for comprehension.

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drtywater OP t1_ixzil1s wrote

Its not quite that simple. They do offer some benefits you can’t get at small places. People blame big box retailers for poorly run businesses going out

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mshelikoff t1_iy0xylv wrote

Oh it's all so very complicated when wealthy investors from faraway lands with authoritarian rule put some of their wealth into NYSE:WMT instead of investing it all in nearby oppression. What those investors with connections to Erdogan's AKP party in Turkey or to the Qatari government want is for Walmart to help local working class folks in small-town USA because that's the community they care about, right? It's all about those benefits that you can't get at small businesses. Consumers like me should be so grateful to foreign investors when a big box store pops up nearby. What a great point. It's all so complicated. When will I realize that business owners who live near me is a bad thing because they deny these opportunities for people far away to have a diverse investment portfolio?

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