DeffNotTom t1_j27e6l3 wrote
Reply to comment by coldsnap123 in How do we feel about dogs in coffee shops? by korkvid
I work in a hospital with disabled veterans, I see service dogs on a near daily basis. They don't have to wear a vest or any other identifying tags, and many people choose not to use them because of they don't want to advertise that they're disabled any more than they have to. Also, depending on what kind of task the service animal provides, they can, and do, still act like pets. And there are plenty of pet dogs who are highly trained and well behaved. There are no hard fast rules for service animal's other than being trained to perform a task(s) for a disabled person.
BeyondLions t1_j27kayp wrote
This is just false. My mom has a service dog that she had trained through TADSAW (Train a Dog, Save A Warrior) and the dog needs to focus on his/her task when ‘working’. And while service dogs can be all shapes and sizes, they must be distinguishable as a service animal, and they’re also required to have a certificate on them certifying they’re a service dog.
The issue is that the way the ADA is written prevents businesses from able to verify it’s a service dog, the only questions they’re allowed to ask is ‘Is this a service animal’ and ‘What tasks are they trained to perform?’, so a lot of people bring their personal pet in and just lie because we can’t ask for certification.
TaffyLee__Fubbins t1_j27n9qs wrote
No, THIS is false. There is no certificate - all the ones online are scams to steal your money. And there is no requirement for identification.
Businesses can ask two questions - is this a service dog? And what tasks are they trained to perform?
Darklighter10 t1_j282evz wrote
Sorry man, pretty much all of what you just said is false, and easily fact checked as such.
ijustlikebeingnosy t1_j28s5mf wrote
All of this is false. There is no certification required. Know your facts before you spew.
DeffNotTom t1_j27n4hs wrote
Most of what you just said was entirely wrong. But thanks to someone else telling me I was wrong, I already have the page pulled up. From the ADA website
"Q5. Does the ADA require service animals to be professionally trained?
A. No. People with disabilities have the right to train the dog themselves and are not required to use a professional service dog training program.
Q8. Do service animals have to wear a vest or patch or special harness identifying them as service animals?
A. No. The ADA does not require service animals to wear a vest, ID tag, or specific harness.
Q17. Does the ADA require that service animals be certified as service animals?
A. No. Covered entities may not require documentation, such as proof that the animal has been certified, trained, or licensed as a service animal, as a condition for entry.
There are individuals and organizations that sell service animal certification or registration documents online. These documents do not convey any rights under the ADA and the Department of Justice does not recognize them as proof that the dog is a service animal."
https://www.ada.gov/resources/service-animals-faqs/
I agree, people skirt the law. That is literally my point. The law is nearly unenforceable because protecting the rights of disabled people is the more important issue. I'd rather have solid protection for disabled people's rights, even if that means people abuse that protection to beat other laws.
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