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RogueInteger t1_j2avbvt wrote

I actually dig this. The saying is "Enjoy their first week back because they're staying home sick the second one."

Would love to not have my kid deal with Uncle Frank's cold he can't shake for three weeks.

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Wtf_is_this1234 t1_j2cl819 wrote

You realize a mask doesn't guarantee he won't get sick right?

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RogueInteger t1_j2d6jgj wrote

Yeah, but reduces his chances of getting a respiratory illness, and if others wear it, further reduces that probability.

Masks are effective ways to reduce the spread of aerial diseases.

I learned this because I lived through a pandemic.

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Wtf_is_this1234 t1_j2d6mvo wrote

Yes, they worked SO WELL during covid that people just stopped getting covid.

/s

We had several waves of covid during the mask mandate era and it doesn't really appear to be any different from the waves we're seeing post mask mandate era.

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RogueInteger t1_j2d76ab wrote

Only siths deal in absolutes.

I'm talking about probability. You're talking about binary outcomes.

Masks are effective in reducing infection. Even before covid you might have noticed their use in sanitary or sterile environments.

There's nothing wrong in wanting to reduce risk.

This is an optional undertaking for students. Stop making this into something it's not.

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meebj t1_j2dpm12 wrote

“only siths deal in absolutes” made me laugh. thank you for that!

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grillko t1_j2ddec3 wrote

When it’s raining do you use an umbrella? Or because a couple drops are going to get on your shoes regardless do you also not cover your head?

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Wtf_is_this1234 t1_j2ddheb wrote

It depends on how I feel and how long I have to be outside.

But more importantly, we do not force people to use umbrellas. If you want to get soaked, it's on you.

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Bad_At_Sports t1_j2dllqg wrote

Except when you choose not to use an umbrella, you’re not also putting other people at risk of getting soaked.

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Wtf_is_this1234 t1_j2dne5f wrote

A cloth mask, mandated only inside of school buildings, which is a place where kids will be taking off their shitty cloth masks to eat lunch every day will not protect anyone else either.

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Bad_At_Sports t1_j2do7b6 wrote

Okay, so there are two thoughts here that you have to be willing to separate.

The first is that masks aren’t effective at reducing transmission. This is wrong. They absolutely are effective at reducing transmission, and the science backs this up. Even cloth masks, which are less effective than n95s, still have some effect on reducing the number of droplets you spew out into the world when your wearing a mask.

The second thought is that the BPS application of a mask mandate like this is basically ineffective because of all the ways it’s easily ignored - which includes taking them off for lunch AND people who choose not to wear them. And that’s a valid criticism.

But to do nothing and expect people to just deal with getting sick is exactly what leads to massive spikes in hospitalizations, which is the real danger here. It’s not about kids getting sick. It’s about how quickly kids can spread those germs to everyone else without realizing it.

Just get off your high horse and think about other people for once.

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Wtf_is_this1234 t1_j2doyqi wrote

You can't separate the two because in real life they are in constant conflict with each other.

Because people take masks off constantly to eat/drink/talk to their buddy 2 feet away, the entire premise behind the mandate collapses into reality, where we've seen case rates are basically the same with or without a mandate.

There's a reason we've never wasted time trying to impose mask mandates pre-covid.

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jro10 t1_j2ekq3a wrote

Cloth masks offer little to no extra protection. If you’re wearing an N95 you’re well protected regardless of whether or not the other party is masked.

Mandates were only meant to be used temporarily when covid was at its worst. These kids have been severely impacted by covid for 2+ years. Enough with the nonsense—let’s use common sense and free will.

You want to send your kid in a mask? Go ahead. Don’t force others to do the same because you’re still paranoid.

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shiningdickhalloran t1_j2fpenr wrote

Are you frequently in the position of standing outside holding an umbrella for 8+ hours every day?

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bb5199 t1_j2azenw wrote

Then put your kid in an N95 and leave the rest of the kids alone.

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RogueInteger t1_j2cej87 wrote

This is weirdly hostile.

Yeah, I'll send my kid in a mask. I hope others do to. And if they don't, IDGAF.

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