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frausting t1_j1an1zs wrote

When I moved to Cambridge from Florida, I was unsure how to pronounce it. My first guess was “cam-bridge”, but when I got here quickly switched to “came-bridge”

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becausefrog t1_j1ar0s0 wrote

I wonder if there's a Cam-bridge where they are from? I always get Reading and Read-ing mixed up because it's pronounced one way where I grew up and another way here and I can never keep track of which is which anymore.

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89DEALS t1_j1arejk wrote

Cam-bridge, Came-bridge, Cum-bridge…all are considered acceptable pronunciations

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ftmthrow t1_j1augfu wrote

Interesting, I’ve never heard them described as “soft/hard” vowel sounds, just short/long.

Anyway, it’s hard/long (nice).

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lotusblossom60 t1_j1awl78 wrote

Met a girl from another state. She pronounced Billerica like Bill-air-eh-cah. I laughed so hard. Worcester was Warchester.

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QueenOfBrews t1_j1aww9m wrote

No, but I knew someone that refused to say Tremont correctly in reference to the street. Drove me irrationally crazy. Same person that called Copley “Cope-ly”

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riski_click t1_j1axvgb wrote

It might be bookish? Cambridge's namesake in the U.K. got it's name from the river Cam that runs through it. I'm not sure, but I doubt the river is pronounced "Came"

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Russiasucks_6969 t1_j1axyw6 wrote

Yes. It drove me nuts for so long. They moved away thankfully.

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alde-baran t1_j1azvj7 wrote

Even in the UK they pronounce it as "Came-bridge", so if we're going by their example... but then again, do we Americans really want to?

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ppomeroy t1_j1b4h5r wrote

Lots of transplants tend to mispronounce local street names or town names.

In Roslindale there is an Albano Street. It is "al-BAY-no" but those not born there say "al-BAN-no." As I tell them, it is not named after a former wrestling star (Lou Albano).

Some years ago my neighbor was stopped by a lost motorist and asked for directions to "muh-TAP-un." No one seemed to know where that was. After a little thought process he told the driver that he can't get there, because it is pronounced "MAT-uh-PAN" (Mattapan).

Directions were issued to the poor lost soul.

Boston and vicinity has a decent mix of English and Wampanoag (Native American) names.

The thing that can be frosting is when said people refuse to accept correction by the Native Bostonians on pronunciation.

We will not speak of Worcester, Gloucester, or Scituate. :-)

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-CalicoKitty- t1_j1b6yfl wrote

That's wrong and they should be ashamed, but I just realized that I pronounce it Cam-berville instead of Came-berville. Is this wrong?

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RogueInteger t1_j1b7xn3 wrote

I believe you get your ass kicked saying something like that.

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AstroBuck t1_j1b9cne wrote

I know one family who does it. It's fucking weird.

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camlaw63 t1_j1bm2gm wrote

You gently tell the person that they are mispronouncing it.

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hihik t1_j1bocrb wrote

In Russian Cambridge is pronounced with “jam” as OP describes, so any Russian-speaking person who has learned English without exposure to the English/American pronunciation would say it that way.

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dyqik t1_j1buuv6 wrote

As an English transplant, I'm pleased that MA gets Worcester and Gloucester right. But I do wish MA had a Bicester ("Bister") and Towcester ("Toaster").

But as for RI, with its War-wick...

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dyqik t1_j1bvswr wrote

This shows up in the village of Grantchester ("Grant(a)-encampment") a bit upstream (south) from Cambridge.

Some maps still say "River Cam (or Granta)". A similar thing goes on in Oxford with the Isis (or Thames), upstream of the confluence with the Cherwell. Below Oxford, it's the Thames.

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ButterAndPaint t1_j1c03tf wrote

An Irish friend of mine had a friend visiting from Ireland, and they lost track of each other while out drinking one night. The next morning his friend showed up and told him he had ended up in “Quinky.”

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andr_wr t1_j1c3td8 wrote

Yes a few folks. They all were Harvard-affilated from other parts of the US. It was an intereting moment.

Some other unexpected pronunciations: Al-wife, Tray-munt, Leek-mere, and Putt-nam (like, old-school folks call Vietnam as "'nam")

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tiniestturtles t1_j1c6pbf wrote

Yes it drives me nuts. He’s lived here for 7 years now, in Somerville, and still calls it Cammbridge.

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Cormyll666 t1_j1cc9qp wrote

Okay, truth time: I did this the first week I lived here. I am originally from a metro area that notoriously says “soft A’s”, which is my excuse. I came correct as soon as I realized “wait no one else says this the wrong way I am saying it”.

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Cormyll666 t1_j1ccj1t wrote

Legit though everything here is pronounced incorrectly. How anyone gets “Wuhsta” from “Worcester” I will never know. Ditto for so many others. Lemonster from Leominster? Come on.

It’s all just an elaborate gatekeeping mechanism to tell who has lived here long enough and who hasn’t.

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Alaharon123 t1_j1ccke3 wrote

I said it that way for a while before I was corrected. Now I pronounce it Cumbridge, like a normal person

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mmmsoap t1_j1d6w8k wrote

I went to college with a girl who insisted that it made sense to call it Pea-Body (“because you find a body in the woods, not a buhDEE in the woods”) and absolutely refused to change because the entire state is Massachusetts was wrong.

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angelabroc t1_j1dad1a wrote

I’m in the field of speech pathology so I’m just gonna jump in here, the a in “jam” is not 100% a short vowel (like in “hat”) or a long vowel (where the vowel says its name, like in “same”). It’s actually a nasalized vowel (influenced by an n or m after it, like “ran/man” as opposed to “rat/mat”.) So that might be why it’s a little hard to identify the sound in “jam” 🙃

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officepolicy OP t1_j1daxyb wrote

That’s really interesting, makes sense that it’s not just a binary between long/short. Do you prefer using long/short or hard/soft? Or do you just compare to other words to disambiguate? Thanks so much for the expert opinion, häts off to you 😉

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angelabroc t1_j1dblgp wrote

Haha i have to agree with other posters that its definitely typically long/short for vowels, and then hard/soft for consonants (hard g in gate vs soft g in giraffe, same goes for the letter c in cage vs. cent). There are a ton of technical terms/specifics for each sound that can be made/used in a language, but if you aren’t a speech pathologist or a linguist it really doesn’t matter too much! Rule of thumb for vowels though is if the vowel “says its name” in the word, it’s a long vowel.

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officepolicy OP t1_j1dc2rp wrote

Ah gotcha, thanks! When I originally wrote the post I had just quickly googled “hard and soft vowels” and some results came up so I used that, didn’t realize it wasn’t the typical terms

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rainniier2 t1_j1ddt52 wrote

Everyone here is probably talking about the same guy and no one has confronted him yet.

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hamakabi t1_j1dfbm9 wrote

No, but I pronounce Bangor as "banger" and that really, really upsets Mainers.

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Cashcash1998 t1_j1dfo0w wrote

I’m not from here so I always did. Soft A makes more sense without any context

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SkinnyJoshPeck t1_j1dg91w wrote

Utah says “hur-ih-ken” for a town spelled Hurricane.

i’m convinced everyone says these cities wrong just for posterity’s sake. They are wrong, like how volvo has that color “swedish racing green” which is clearly blue. But that doesn’t mean it’s not how everyone says it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I guess to avoid an existential crisis folks just can’t accept people can do whatever they want lol.

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geminimad4 t1_j1dhin9 wrote

I knew some students from France who pronounced it this way.

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AJSopranosEyebrows t1_j1dl42l wrote

My doctor's secretary is an old lady with a Brahmin accent. I once asked her if she had any appointments available on a Friday and she responded "Ah, ya cunt, he's not in that day" and it took me a minute to realize she said "you can't" and didn't call me the C word lol

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acelana t1_j1dn6ov wrote

To me the most cursed place in Utah is Coeur d’Alene. I tried pronouncing it with what I thought was a pretty Anglicized pronunciation (kerr deh lehn). Nope. It’s fucking Core Duh Lane.

May God have mercy on us all

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officepolicy OP t1_j1dy5d3 wrote

I can say both of those slowly. I honestly don’t see how saying those two vowels slowly shows which is long or short. Also a speech pathologist in the comments told me jam is not a short vowel (like hat, which I can say slowly just fine too.) Jam is a nasalize vowel influenced by an n or m after it

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bananarama9 t1_j1e411f wrote

When I first moved here I said it with a soft a and got corrected. Been saying it with a hard a ever since. I say go ahead and correct them, might be the only way they will take notice

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murdocke t1_j1e5njs wrote

I work in Cambridge and everyone I work with pronounces it cam-bridge. Is that not correct?

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Old-Spend-8218 t1_j1ekyvc wrote

Ya only complete loosers.. it’s Came & bridge bro

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Macbookaroniandchez t1_j1xluon wrote

i'm intrigued as to how your friend came (no pun intended) to the conclusion it is pronounced that way. Are they French or French Canadian, per chance?

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