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rDevilFruitIdeasMod t1_jak496p wrote

The true gamers are the ones who enjoy playing games on whatever platform they have.

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7800x3dismyjesus t1_jaiidkf wrote

Tbh I wish I could play just consoles and not also pc

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GubblebumGold t1_jaif90d wrote

i get its a joke but >3k is still 4090 tier

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Dannycar01 t1_jaks86p wrote

I just paid $800 for a PS5 and it runs 100x better than my $900 PC

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kyotheman1 t1_jai84md wrote

15k? Wish I had money, I'd be happy with 2k-3k rig

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Crakxm t1_jaiebu6 wrote

I meannn a 1k pc is gonna run all of the current games in very high settings at 1080p.

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xXGrizlXx_ t1_jalaq5c wrote

I second this, mine was only 850 but runs most games max settings while running at a steady 60 fps

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Crakxm t1_jaloigf wrote

Nice! What are the specs?

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xXGrizlXx_ t1_jalw1ev wrote

I'm not exactly techy or anything but I've got a i-5 12400F, Asus prime h610m-k, rtx 3050, 16gb of ram and 2500gb of storage, sorry if I sound like an idiot lol

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RBTropical t1_jajq9f8 wrote

“Console gamers when they realise their system was a midrange PC 2 years ago, and you can now build a PC which beats it for similar money, with free online, full backwards compatibility and cheaper games”

Seriously these memes get old when you can build a ÂŁ500-600 PC which beats the console and saves you ÂŁ70 a year online and ÂŁ20-30 for every game.

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xNaughtyJulia t1_jalpf44 wrote

I own a PS5 and a PC with a 3080 in it, and while consoles may be ‘mid range PC’s from 2 years ago’ at least all games on it run smoothly while every new release on PC these days is an unoptimized mess with stutters and frame drops all the time, not to mention denuvo hogging performance even more. These days you get better treatment in consoles and PC players are treated as second grade citizens..

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xNaughtyJulia t1_jam6cxz wrote

If you think there isn’t optimisation needed anymore then you are truly delusional lol. Console optimization is very much a thing even because it’s much easier for devs to optimize for a system with a specific set of hardware instead of thousands of different configurations (like PC). Hogwarts isn’t the only recent release that has problems.. Witcher 3 updated version has a lot of stutter problems on PC, Elden Ring STILL has stutter issues.. Dead Space.. the list goes on and on, almost ALL games that get released these days have performance problems on PC and devs think they can just get away with poor optimization by slapping DLSS on all of their games. Truly if you think this is a non issue you either don’t play games or you’re just plain stupid. And guess what? None of these games have issues on console.

But of course, PC is the best place to play, right?

Also 900p25? have you been living under a stone? Current gen consoles have been hitting 60 fps on all new titles so far. And then I’m the one spreading misinformation, how ironic.

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RBTropical t1_jalzgpt wrote

Stop posting the same misinformed nonsense and actually read my responses. There isn’t any “optimisation” really needed these days, consoles ARE PCs. That’s why lately this hasn’t really been talked about, and you’ve only revived this because of Hogwarts Legacy. Yawn.

But please, go enjoy your smooth 900p25 game and tell me it’s “optimised”.

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Captobvious75 t1_jak292i wrote

I spent about $2k on my 5600/7900xt build. Kinda sad I did because most new releases are stutter fests. Anything new has been bought on PS5. 🤷‍♂️

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NewBobPow t1_jakthdd wrote

PC gamers don't spend $15K on their PC.

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reality-escapeartist t1_japs70i wrote

Handheld gamers when they realise they can play in bed, in the garden, on the toilet, whilst watching TV, on a lunch break at work; on holiday, on the bus.

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ItsCodeh t1_jascawv wrote

I just bought a $2k Laptop mainly for Java Minecraft & a few other games. It can barely run Minecraft with [for the most part] the lowest graphic settings.

With original settings, it was running at less than 10fps.

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ThorsEyeball t1_jb8m4aj wrote

Honestly, I had my fill of building pcs back in the day. Could not be arsed with them now. Happy with consoles.

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Crakxm t1_jai3d5m wrote

In my country series x isn't 500 dollars but 1k dollars .So instead I built a 1k dollar pc that is equal (if not better) to series X

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Joshooahh t1_jai4knn wrote

But surely the pc parts would be inflated if your country is selling a console for double the price? Wtf gives

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Crakxm t1_jai5nvj wrote

Nah the taxes on pc prices isnt that high. It basically is the same price as it's in US. But on consoles the taxes make them 2 times more expensive. There is a "luxury tax" in here and consoles are considered as "luxury items" pcs aren't lol

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Joshooahh t1_jai7g4i wrote

That explains why in some countries it makes sense to play on pc i guess.

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WallaceninWilliam t1_jalj3c3 wrote

Are you from turkey.

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Crakxm t1_jalovw6 wrote

Maalesef. 16 bin olmuş series X onun yerine Ryzen 5 5600 ve Radeon rx6700xt li sistem kurdum

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WallaceninWilliam t1_jalqb21 wrote

Hayırlı olsun kardeşim, dediğin gibi gerçekten 1k dolar olması beni de şaşırtmıştı. Hemde daha iyi ettin , oyun fiyatlarını da aldı başını gitti.

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fords-electronics t1_jai9kek wrote

I built my daughter a gaming pc that out performs the series X for under $800. A series X if I could get my hands on it retail would be $760. And it can do everything the Xbox can plus some 🤷🏻‍♀️. I own consoles. But the mind frame that you need to spend thousands on a pc build to be better than a console is just false information. I only get consoles when they’re outdated and the prices are actually reasonable or if they’re actually really worth it. Like the steam deck.

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Joshooahh t1_jaia3xj wrote

I would expect it to outperform it when it costs 75% more. So in my country for me it doesn't make sense, thats obvious for someone in the uk like myself but not to someone god knows where

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fords-electronics t1_jaiaiw9 wrote

I just gave you the price comparison. It was dollars. Not 75% more. I’m Canadian, the price margins on things really aren’t that different for electronics for here compared to UK. And gunna add I splurged in areas I could have saved money on her build. Like she has a really fast nvme. I could have put a sub par ssd in and it still would of been faster than an Xbox, and I could have saved $100. But I have multi thousand builds myself, and working on a slow potato annoys me. So I chose to splurge for convenience so updating it for her and installing things doesn’t take all day.

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RBTropical t1_jajqgek wrote

Except you save ÂŁ70 a year on Live and have cheaper games

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Joshooahh t1_jal876s wrote

Me and my mates go halfs on game pass ultimate that we have stacked to 2026. We used the gold to game pass ultimate upgrade for ÂŁ1 loop hole conversion saving us hundreds

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RBTropical t1_jalzt9d wrote

You know Game Pass is on PC too, right?

Regardless of your loophole you have to rely on mates to get, you still spend money PC gamers don’t have to for online play.

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Joshooahh t1_jam09zm wrote

Tf i dont care mate lol i was just saying what i do and people dislike it lol. Edit Plus you're on a sub called consoles and your beefing on me havi g one and doing my own thing on it lol

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midnight_rebirth t1_jaicqbk wrote

No way. Specs?

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fords-electronics t1_jaiece1 wrote

Ryzen 5 4500 (this one is a bit behind the series x but still performs extraordinarily well plus I over clocked it. She will be getting dads 5800x in a year or 2), she originally had a rtx580 but I returned it after I found a 3060 for $250 tax in. Had a dead fan, was a no brainer. 32gb ram, and a 750w psu. Things a tiny tank.

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fords-electronics t1_jaifm6s wrote

Just for price break down

Mb $80 Cpu $102 Gpu $250 + $10 for a new fan Case $50 Ram $60 Nvme $130 Psu $110 (again a splurge, she will be inheriting pieces from me and dad so wanted one that would last and have enough power for upgrades)

Total = $792

Excuse the awful mobile formatting.

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ZekerNietTijn t1_jaic8ay wrote

Hahahaha in my country the ps5 is 1k and xbox series x 500 dollar...

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giantvar t1_jai2yuz wrote

No mine is 8k$ not 15k$ thats too much

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MrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajhgfj wrote

"Pc is better than console" yeah no shit YOUR 1500$ pc will be better than my average console. Guess what, i have a pc. But whenever i try to purchase a game from steam it tells me i need all thes other bullshit hardware requirements. Not all PC are the same. But every console of its generation will always perform the same.

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RBTropical t1_jajqoz3 wrote

Dude, even if you don’t meet the specs the PC would still outperform a console because the console has lower specs

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TheBloatingofIsaac t1_jaln8o4 wrote

Pc is not a global platform. “Console has lower specs”. No it doesnt. It has higher specs than any pc with gpu lower than 2070super-3060

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RBTropical t1_jalzo73 wrote

Yes, it does. The Series X is the highest end platform and it has a 3700x with a 6800 equivalent. The card you named is a midrange one two generations old, and the CPU is too generations old too. So yes, it has lower specs.

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RBTropical t1_jalzogi wrote

Yes, it does. The Series X is the highest end platform and it has a 3700x with a 6800 equivalent. The card you named is a midrange one two generations old, and the CPU is too generations old too. So yes, it has lower specs.

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TheBloatingofIsaac t1_jam8att wrote

Look at steam hardware survey and tell me if consoles are weaker than pc as a whole. Literally more than half of the pc community has worse gpu’s than the gpu you listed. You are a joke

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RBTropical t1_jam9qnt wrote

And now look at marketshare of the consoles. How many people actually have a Series X?

Most of the GPUs you reference would’ve likely been bought when the PS4 was the main console, making them significantly more powerful than the main console available at the time.

This is the point you miss - we’re just two years in and are already about to hit price parity. In 2 more years the mainstream mid tier GPU will be significantly more powerful and a build will cost less.

The steam survey is also heavily influenced by price scalping caused during COVID/the mining boom. Consoles were hit by the same thing, but people are only given one option.

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MrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajqzxq wrote

No it wouldnt. Fucking FORTNITE or even minecraft lags on my PC when on fucking ps3 or xbox one theyd run smoothly.

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RBTropical t1_jajui8l wrote

Sounds like your PC is broken buddy, or the settings aren’t as low as what the console’s are

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MrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajvrat wrote

Nah, not evrry fucking pc is built the same. Thats the problem. So dont fucking say that shit is better on pc causd not every PC has a 500 dollar game card with 500 liquid cooling.

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RBTropical t1_jajx36t wrote

Dude, an Xbox Series X is literally just a custom 3700x with a 6800. It’s running a modified version of Windows. There’s nothing special or different in there, this isn’t the 360/PS3 generation.

If you have a PC that exceeds these specs, it will outperform the console full stop. You don’t need “500 liquid cooling and a 500 GPU”. You can literally get a 3800x for £100 and a used 6800 for £200-300. The PC is barely more money with storage and a motherboard etc but saves £70 a year on Live + cheaper games.

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MrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajyzq8 wrote

  1. I never play xbox live or multiplayer games
  2. In my curreny thats alot
  3. Im not talking about the new generation. My current xbox is an xbox one.
  4. If i cant afford an xbox series x. How can it be expected of to buy a functional gaming pc that will run games as smoothly as a console?
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RBTropical t1_jajzial wrote

  1. Probably because Live costs money and you’re cost sensitive
  2. I don’t know what your currency is, I’m just comparing to console
  3. You can get an extremely cheap PC which can outperform this
  4. Look up junkman builds. Some people buy old Dell workstation PCs that offices are just throwing out and chuck in a GPU. If you get a good enough deal, all of a sudden you could’ve spent $200-250 and you’re at Series X performance, Series S for sure.
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brandonsp111 t1_jajky8y wrote

Actual facts? No no we don't do that here..

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RBTropical t1_jajqn9y wrote

That’s because what he said wasn’t facts at all

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brandonsp111 t1_jajw66a wrote

What part? The fact that all PCs are not the same? Thus will not perform the same?

Or the fact that nearly all games have different minimum hardware requirements?

Or the fact that no shit a $1500 PC will be better than a console?

Or perhaps you take issue with the fact that all consoles in their respective generations & platforms perform the exact same?

He absolutely said facts. And people like you are why most PC gamers are viewed as elitist asshats.

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RBTropical t1_jajxohc wrote

Dude, why is every line a question? What you said makes no sense again too, and why the comparison with a $1500 PC?

Yes, all PCs aren’t the same. All Xboxs aren’t either - the S and X. The Series X is literally just a custom 3700x with a 6800. You can get these parts for $300-400, and the rest of the parts are cheap. You save £70 a year on Live and games are cheaper. This will pretty much match the console. There isn’t custom hardware any more, this isn’t the 360/PS3 gen.

So you’re saving £70 a year on Live, £20 per game maybe too. But guess what? As the generation progresses, these parts get even cheaper. We’re pretty much at the crossover already where consoles have poor value.

So what happens to your games when they become more resource intensive? You’re right, every PS5 is the same. So every PS5 is forced to turn down the quality of the game and you can’t change that or even upgrade. PC? New GPU, all while keeping full backwards compatibility and free online.

So no, you’re still an idiot and yes, what he said still makes no sense. Yes, all games have different minimum requirements. Do you not remember some consoles playing Cyberpunk poorly? The difference here is when this happens, you can upgrade a PC. A console? Accept the graphics or spend another $500.

This is why PC gamers laugh at you. You’re a PC gamer too, except you’re forced to pay more for games, the same amount for the system, have worse graphics AND you pay for online.

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brandonsp111 t1_jak6dqo wrote

Everything was a question because I was asking you. Do you not understand how communication works? Yes that was also a question. As for the cost I was going of the OC's words. But you can use any cost you'd like!

I'm fully aware of how the hardware is today. However, unlike PCs, ANY Xbox (One, One S, One X, Series X, Series S) can play any game from any year designated for those platforms. A 2013 launch model Xbox One can play Halo Infinite from 2021. PCs definitely aren't as friendly to that degree. Consoles are far easier. Buy the box and any game will work for any of those boxes. There is absolutely no guarantee that any PC game will work with any PC.

You talk about cost like it truly matters. I can spend $400-$500 once a decade and nothing more hardware wise. Console gamers aren't like PC morons who have to sweat like a fat kid at a candy camp cause a game runs 1 frame lower than they expect it to. One part costing nearly 3/4s the whole Xbox? Wow, what a steal! What a great counter point!

You also act like consoles being weaker than the latest bleeding edge hardware (which unlike consoles releases every year) is the problem with games having to be toned down. Fine then make the game for PC only. But why don't devs do that? Cause they'd lose billions. And 9/10 times PCs only have better graphical options. There has never been a game to light the world on fire because it was released for PC only that had such a huge, vast world full of shit. It's only graphical differences. Most level headed people (i.e. NOT PC GAMERS) could care less. They'd rather have competent, enjoyable games over pretty graphics.

Yes we pay for online. We also have far less cheaters, aimbot abusers, hackers and other playing affecting experiences than the free Walmart service you try to lord over people. Free doesn't always equal good. Backwards compatibility is another debate entirely. Frankly no one does it perfectly. But PC players pirating games is equally as bad for the industry.

I remember cyberpunk quite well. I also remember that PC was by far the WORST platform to play it on. Gonna blame consoles for that too? Not Sony or Microsoft's fault it ran like shit on there.

You people are pathetic. It's always MuH pC hAs BeTtER gRaPhIcS!!! Congratulations. Everybody knows that. Guess what? We still play the same games! Amazing right? You are literally the meme of a dude shouting "quit having fun". You have to justify in any way possible that PC is superior in every way, when it's definitely 100% not. No platform is perfect. Each has its faults and advantages. But shaming people for playing on console?? Pathetic. You fat bois keep hanging out in your mom's basement with all the money you save not growing up and being an adult. The rest of us will continue to have fun and be responsible citizens that actually contribute something to society, rather than force the existence of hygiene products like you lmao.

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RBTropical t1_jam1ws5 wrote

“Any game from any year designed for those platforms” yeah, slight problem there. A PC from 2017 can play current games. Can a One X? Nope. A PC from 2023 can play a game from 2013. Can a PS5? Nope. There goes that point. 🙈

Dude, you really aren’t getting this. A console IS a PC. You can spend the same amount now on a PC as a console and get THE SAME LONGEVITY. A console doesn’t miraculously have tonnes more power because it’s a console - the reason the OG Xbox One was able to play new games in 2020 is because the settings were far lower than the games it ran in 2013. You can do this on a PC too… in fact, you have more control over HOW you do this. A PC from 2021 with the same specs as an Xbox One can play Halo Infinite at the same quality. There goes that point.

“Sweaty fat kit” - and here come the personal attacks and petty comments. Clear sign your argument is falling apart if you can’t actually stick to the point.

“9/10 times PCs only have better graphical options” - you’ve never used a PC, have you? You can still set games to 640x480 buddy. There goes that argument. The point isn’t that consoles are weaker than PCs - it’s that the value gets worse. Both Microsoft and Sony have increased the price of their systems but PC hardware has gone down. Eventually you get to the point where better hardware on PC is actually cheaper. Why even buy a console at this point?

“Free Walmart service and cheaters” - wow. You know there’s cheaters on console too right? And you know we use the same servers you do as most are provided by the game devs? 🤦🏻‍♂️

“Backwards compatibility is another debate entirely” - no it isn’t, you just don’t want to prove how badly you’d lose that argument.

PC wasn’t the worst platform hahaha - now you’re just resorting to making up shit? It’s pretty well known that the Xbox One and PS4 were by far the worst platforms the game launched on. But please, underline every embarrassing point which destabilises your argument with a lie - makes them easy to spot. I guess you lied here because the fact the PS4 Pro and One X struggled so much would collapse your whole argument about “$400 once a decade” when they couldn’t manage a game 3 years after launch. What about the fact that a version of the game which actually used the extra PS5/Series X power you paid for took a year to come out?

“It’s always muh PC has better graphics” - dude my entire argument has been about consoles just being PCs and PCs being a better value at the same price with cheaper games and free online. I get you want to argue graphics as it’s an easy point to dismiss, but I’ve literally never mentioned that? It’s crazy how many weak strategies you’re trying here.

When was I telling you to quit having fun? You were the dude calling people enjoying PCs losers and sweaty fat kids 😂

“Shaming people for having consoles? Really?” Followed by “you sweaty fat boys in your mum’s basement”. I didn’t even know people could lack this much self awareness. You criticise me “shaming consoles” (which I never did, just pointed out they ARE PCs these days and PCs can save you money) and you proceed to shame and attack what you perceive to be PC gamers. Amazing, honestly. Especially when you follow up with “we contribute to society and you need hygiene products”

Truly amazing you spent an entire paragraph shitting and shaming on people and criticised what you perceived to be someone doing it themselves.

The fact you made this into an emotion-fuelled rant about society and hygiene suggests I touched a nerve? Maybe you should investigate that in therapy, possibly subconsciously you wish you could afford a PC and my comments are making you realise you could’ve, but didn’t do your research? And instead of accepting that, you go out and personally attack a group of gamers. I hope you get help.

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xNaughtyJulia t1_jalpncu wrote

Console optimization. You go enjoy your shitty PC ports with stutters everywhere and broken optimization and not to mention denuvo while I pay 20 euro more on console but at least get a working product.

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RBTropical t1_jalza52 wrote

Again, that’s literally one game. Check out MW2, it actually runs better on AMD GPUs because CONSOLES ARE PCs.

Most ports don’t need to be optimised any more because the console hardware is the same. Again, this isn’t the PS3/360 generation buddy. You kinda just proved you didn’t read my post.

You go play games at upscaled 900p25 buddy, but keep talking to me about “optimisation” 🤦🏻‍♂️

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RBTropical t1_jajqpne wrote

Dude, even if you don’t meet the specs the PC would still outperform a console with lower specs

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