đ¤ˇMrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajhgfj wrote
"Pc is better than console" yeah no shit YOUR 1500$ pc will be better than my average console. Guess what, i have a pc. But whenever i try to purchase a game from steam it tells me i need all thes other bullshit hardware requirements. Not all PC are the same. But every console of its generation will always perform the same.
RBTropical t1_jajqoz3 wrote
Dude, even if you donât meet the specs the PC would still outperform a console because the console has lower specs
TheBloatingofIsaac t1_jaln8o4 wrote
Pc is not a global platform. âConsole has lower specsâ. No it doesnt. It has higher specs than any pc with gpu lower than 2070super-3060
RBTropical t1_jalzo73 wrote
Yes, it does. The Series X is the highest end platform and it has a 3700x with a 6800 equivalent. The card you named is a midrange one two generations old, and the CPU is too generations old too. So yes, it has lower specs.
RBTropical t1_jalzogi wrote
Yes, it does. The Series X is the highest end platform and it has a 3700x with a 6800 equivalent. The card you named is a midrange one two generations old, and the CPU is too generations old too. So yes, it has lower specs.
TheBloatingofIsaac t1_jam8att wrote
Look at steam hardware survey and tell me if consoles are weaker than pc as a whole. Literally more than half of the pc community has worse gpuâs than the gpu you listed. You are a joke
RBTropical t1_jam9qnt wrote
And now look at marketshare of the consoles. How many people actually have a Series X?
Most of the GPUs you reference wouldâve likely been bought when the PS4 was the main console, making them significantly more powerful than the main console available at the time.
This is the point you miss - weâre just two years in and are already about to hit price parity. In 2 more years the mainstream mid tier GPU will be significantly more powerful and a build will cost less.
The steam survey is also heavily influenced by price scalping caused during COVID/the mining boom. Consoles were hit by the same thing, but people are only given one option.
MrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajqzxq wrote
No it wouldnt. Fucking FORTNITE or even minecraft lags on my PC when on fucking ps3 or xbox one theyd run smoothly.
RBTropical t1_jajui8l wrote
Sounds like your PC is broken buddy, or the settings arenât as low as what the consoleâs are
MrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajvrat wrote
Nah, not evrry fucking pc is built the same. Thats the problem. So dont fucking say that shit is better on pc causd not every PC has a 500 dollar game card with 500 liquid cooling.
RBTropical t1_jajx36t wrote
Dude, an Xbox Series X is literally just a custom 3700x with a 6800. Itâs running a modified version of Windows. Thereâs nothing special or different in there, this isnât the 360/PS3 generation.
If you have a PC that exceeds these specs, it will outperform the console full stop. You donât need â500 liquid cooling and a 500 GPUâ. You can literally get a 3800x for ÂŁ100 and a used 6800 for ÂŁ200-300. The PC is barely more money with storage and a motherboard etc but saves ÂŁ70 a year on Live + cheaper games.
MrAVAT4R_2 t1_jajyzq8 wrote
- I never play xbox live or multiplayer games
- In my curreny thats alot
- Im not talking about the new generation. My current xbox is an xbox one.
- If i cant afford an xbox series x. How can it be expected of to buy a functional gaming pc that will run games as smoothly as a console?
RBTropical t1_jajzial wrote
- Probably because Live costs money and youâre cost sensitive
- I donât know what your currency is, Iâm just comparing to console
- You can get an extremely cheap PC which can outperform this
- Look up junkman builds. Some people buy old Dell workstation PCs that offices are just throwing out and chuck in a GPU. If you get a good enough deal, all of a sudden you couldâve spent $200-250 and youâre at Series X performance, Series S for sure.
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brandonsp111 t1_jajky8y wrote
Actual facts? No no we don't do that here..
RBTropical t1_jajqn9y wrote
Thatâs because what he said wasnât facts at all
brandonsp111 t1_jajw66a wrote
What part? The fact that all PCs are not the same? Thus will not perform the same?
Or the fact that nearly all games have different minimum hardware requirements?
Or the fact that no shit a $1500 PC will be better than a console?
Or perhaps you take issue with the fact that all consoles in their respective generations & platforms perform the exact same?
He absolutely said facts. And people like you are why most PC gamers are viewed as elitist asshats.
RBTropical t1_jajxohc wrote
Dude, why is every line a question? What you said makes no sense again too, and why the comparison with a $1500 PC?
Yes, all PCs arenât the same. All Xboxs arenât either - the S and X. The Series X is literally just a custom 3700x with a 6800. You can get these parts for $300-400, and the rest of the parts are cheap. You save ÂŁ70 a year on Live and games are cheaper. This will pretty much match the console. There isnât custom hardware any more, this isnât the 360/PS3 gen.
So youâre saving ÂŁ70 a year on Live, ÂŁ20 per game maybe too. But guess what? As the generation progresses, these parts get even cheaper. Weâre pretty much at the crossover already where consoles have poor value.
So what happens to your games when they become more resource intensive? Youâre right, every PS5 is the same. So every PS5 is forced to turn down the quality of the game and you canât change that or even upgrade. PC? New GPU, all while keeping full backwards compatibility and free online.
So no, youâre still an idiot and yes, what he said still makes no sense. Yes, all games have different minimum requirements. Do you not remember some consoles playing Cyberpunk poorly? The difference here is when this happens, you can upgrade a PC. A console? Accept the graphics or spend another $500.
This is why PC gamers laugh at you. Youâre a PC gamer too, except youâre forced to pay more for games, the same amount for the system, have worse graphics AND you pay for online.
brandonsp111 t1_jak6dqo wrote
Everything was a question because I was asking you. Do you not understand how communication works? Yes that was also a question. As for the cost I was going of the OC's words. But you can use any cost you'd like!
I'm fully aware of how the hardware is today. However, unlike PCs, ANY Xbox (One, One S, One X, Series X, Series S) can play any game from any year designated for those platforms. A 2013 launch model Xbox One can play Halo Infinite from 2021. PCs definitely aren't as friendly to that degree. Consoles are far easier. Buy the box and any game will work for any of those boxes. There is absolutely no guarantee that any PC game will work with any PC.
You talk about cost like it truly matters. I can spend $400-$500 once a decade and nothing more hardware wise. Console gamers aren't like PC morons who have to sweat like a fat kid at a candy camp cause a game runs 1 frame lower than they expect it to. One part costing nearly 3/4s the whole Xbox? Wow, what a steal! What a great counter point!
You also act like consoles being weaker than the latest bleeding edge hardware (which unlike consoles releases every year) is the problem with games having to be toned down. Fine then make the game for PC only. But why don't devs do that? Cause they'd lose billions. And 9/10 times PCs only have better graphical options. There has never been a game to light the world on fire because it was released for PC only that had such a huge, vast world full of shit. It's only graphical differences. Most level headed people (i.e. NOT PC GAMERS) could care less. They'd rather have competent, enjoyable games over pretty graphics.
Yes we pay for online. We also have far less cheaters, aimbot abusers, hackers and other playing affecting experiences than the free Walmart service you try to lord over people. Free doesn't always equal good. Backwards compatibility is another debate entirely. Frankly no one does it perfectly. But PC players pirating games is equally as bad for the industry.
I remember cyberpunk quite well. I also remember that PC was by far the WORST platform to play it on. Gonna blame consoles for that too? Not Sony or Microsoft's fault it ran like shit on there.
You people are pathetic. It's always MuH pC hAs BeTtER gRaPhIcS!!! Congratulations. Everybody knows that. Guess what? We still play the same games! Amazing right? You are literally the meme of a dude shouting "quit having fun". You have to justify in any way possible that PC is superior in every way, when it's definitely 100% not. No platform is perfect. Each has its faults and advantages. But shaming people for playing on console?? Pathetic. You fat bois keep hanging out in your mom's basement with all the money you save not growing up and being an adult. The rest of us will continue to have fun and be responsible citizens that actually contribute something to society, rather than force the existence of hygiene products like you lmao.
RBTropical t1_jam1ws5 wrote
âAny game from any year designed for those platformsâ yeah, slight problem there. A PC from 2017 can play current games. Can a One X? Nope. A PC from 2023 can play a game from 2013. Can a PS5? Nope. There goes that point. đ
Dude, you really arenât getting this. A console IS a PC. You can spend the same amount now on a PC as a console and get THE SAME LONGEVITY. A console doesnât miraculously have tonnes more power because itâs a console - the reason the OG Xbox One was able to play new games in 2020 is because the settings were far lower than the games it ran in 2013. You can do this on a PC too⌠in fact, you have more control over HOW you do this. A PC from 2021 with the same specs as an Xbox One can play Halo Infinite at the same quality. There goes that point.
âSweaty fat kitâ - and here come the personal attacks and petty comments. Clear sign your argument is falling apart if you canât actually stick to the point.
â9/10 times PCs only have better graphical optionsâ - youâve never used a PC, have you? You can still set games to 640x480 buddy. There goes that argument. The point isnât that consoles are weaker than PCs - itâs that the value gets worse. Both Microsoft and Sony have increased the price of their systems but PC hardware has gone down. Eventually you get to the point where better hardware on PC is actually cheaper. Why even buy a console at this point?
âFree Walmart service and cheatersâ - wow. You know thereâs cheaters on console too right? And you know we use the same servers you do as most are provided by the game devs? đ¤Śđťââď¸
âBackwards compatibility is another debate entirelyâ - no it isnât, you just donât want to prove how badly youâd lose that argument.
PC wasnât the worst platform hahaha - now youâre just resorting to making up shit? Itâs pretty well known that the Xbox One and PS4 were by far the worst platforms the game launched on. But please, underline every embarrassing point which destabilises your argument with a lie - makes them easy to spot. I guess you lied here because the fact the PS4 Pro and One X struggled so much would collapse your whole argument about â$400 once a decadeâ when they couldnât manage a game 3 years after launch. What about the fact that a version of the game which actually used the extra PS5/Series X power you paid for took a year to come out?
âItâs always muh PC has better graphicsâ - dude my entire argument has been about consoles just being PCs and PCs being a better value at the same price with cheaper games and free online. I get you want to argue graphics as itâs an easy point to dismiss, but Iâve literally never mentioned that? Itâs crazy how many weak strategies youâre trying here.
When was I telling you to quit having fun? You were the dude calling people enjoying PCs losers and sweaty fat kids đ
âShaming people for having consoles? Really?â Followed by âyou sweaty fat boys in your mumâs basementâ. I didnât even know people could lack this much self awareness. You criticise me âshaming consolesâ (which I never did, just pointed out they ARE PCs these days and PCs can save you money) and you proceed to shame and attack what you perceive to be PC gamers. Amazing, honestly. Especially when you follow up with âwe contribute to society and you need hygiene productsâ
Truly amazing you spent an entire paragraph shitting and shaming on people and criticised what you perceived to be someone doing it themselves.
The fact you made this into an emotion-fuelled rant about society and hygiene suggests I touched a nerve? Maybe you should investigate that in therapy, possibly subconsciously you wish you could afford a PC and my comments are making you realise you couldâve, but didnât do your research? And instead of accepting that, you go out and personally attack a group of gamers. I hope you get help.
xNaughtyJulia t1_jalpncu wrote
Console optimization. You go enjoy your shitty PC ports with stutters everywhere and broken optimization and not to mention denuvo while I pay 20 euro more on console but at least get a working product.
RBTropical t1_jalza52 wrote
Again, thatâs literally one game. Check out MW2, it actually runs better on AMD GPUs because CONSOLES ARE PCs.
Most ports donât need to be optimised any more because the console hardware is the same. Again, this isnât the PS3/360 generation buddy. You kinda just proved you didnât read my post.
You go play games at upscaled 900p25 buddy, but keep talking to me about âoptimisationâ đ¤Śđťââď¸
RBTropical t1_jajqpne wrote
Dude, even if you donât meet the specs the PC would still outperform a console with lower specs
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