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RBTropical t1_jajqn9y wrote

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That’s because what he said wasn’t facts at all

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brandonsp111 t1_jajw66a wrote

What part? The fact that all PCs are not the same? Thus will not perform the same?

Or the fact that nearly all games have different minimum hardware requirements?

Or the fact that no shit a $1500 PC will be better than a console?

Or perhaps you take issue with the fact that all consoles in their respective generations & platforms perform the exact same?

He absolutely said facts. And people like you are why most PC gamers are viewed as elitist asshats.

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RBTropical t1_jajxohc wrote

Dude, why is every line a question? What you said makes no sense again too, and why the comparison with a $1500 PC?

Yes, all PCs aren’t the same. All Xboxs aren’t either - the S and X. The Series X is literally just a custom 3700x with a 6800. You can get these parts for $300-400, and the rest of the parts are cheap. You save £70 a year on Live and games are cheaper. This will pretty much match the console. There isn’t custom hardware any more, this isn’t the 360/PS3 gen.

So you’re saving £70 a year on Live, £20 per game maybe too. But guess what? As the generation progresses, these parts get even cheaper. We’re pretty much at the crossover already where consoles have poor value.

So what happens to your games when they become more resource intensive? You’re right, every PS5 is the same. So every PS5 is forced to turn down the quality of the game and you can’t change that or even upgrade. PC? New GPU, all while keeping full backwards compatibility and free online.

So no, you’re still an idiot and yes, what he said still makes no sense. Yes, all games have different minimum requirements. Do you not remember some consoles playing Cyberpunk poorly? The difference here is when this happens, you can upgrade a PC. A console? Accept the graphics or spend another $500.

This is why PC gamers laugh at you. You’re a PC gamer too, except you’re forced to pay more for games, the same amount for the system, have worse graphics AND you pay for online.

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brandonsp111 t1_jak6dqo wrote

Everything was a question because I was asking you. Do you not understand how communication works? Yes that was also a question. As for the cost I was going of the OC's words. But you can use any cost you'd like!

I'm fully aware of how the hardware is today. However, unlike PCs, ANY Xbox (One, One S, One X, Series X, Series S) can play any game from any year designated for those platforms. A 2013 launch model Xbox One can play Halo Infinite from 2021. PCs definitely aren't as friendly to that degree. Consoles are far easier. Buy the box and any game will work for any of those boxes. There is absolutely no guarantee that any PC game will work with any PC.

You talk about cost like it truly matters. I can spend $400-$500 once a decade and nothing more hardware wise. Console gamers aren't like PC morons who have to sweat like a fat kid at a candy camp cause a game runs 1 frame lower than they expect it to. One part costing nearly 3/4s the whole Xbox? Wow, what a steal! What a great counter point!

You also act like consoles being weaker than the latest bleeding edge hardware (which unlike consoles releases every year) is the problem with games having to be toned down. Fine then make the game for PC only. But why don't devs do that? Cause they'd lose billions. And 9/10 times PCs only have better graphical options. There has never been a game to light the world on fire because it was released for PC only that had such a huge, vast world full of shit. It's only graphical differences. Most level headed people (i.e. NOT PC GAMERS) could care less. They'd rather have competent, enjoyable games over pretty graphics.

Yes we pay for online. We also have far less cheaters, aimbot abusers, hackers and other playing affecting experiences than the free Walmart service you try to lord over people. Free doesn't always equal good. Backwards compatibility is another debate entirely. Frankly no one does it perfectly. But PC players pirating games is equally as bad for the industry.

I remember cyberpunk quite well. I also remember that PC was by far the WORST platform to play it on. Gonna blame consoles for that too? Not Sony or Microsoft's fault it ran like shit on there.

You people are pathetic. It's always MuH pC hAs BeTtER gRaPhIcS!!! Congratulations. Everybody knows that. Guess what? We still play the same games! Amazing right? You are literally the meme of a dude shouting "quit having fun". You have to justify in any way possible that PC is superior in every way, when it's definitely 100% not. No platform is perfect. Each has its faults and advantages. But shaming people for playing on console?? Pathetic. You fat bois keep hanging out in your mom's basement with all the money you save not growing up and being an adult. The rest of us will continue to have fun and be responsible citizens that actually contribute something to society, rather than force the existence of hygiene products like you lmao.

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RBTropical t1_jam1ws5 wrote

“Any game from any year designed for those platforms” yeah, slight problem there. A PC from 2017 can play current games. Can a One X? Nope. A PC from 2023 can play a game from 2013. Can a PS5? Nope. There goes that point. 🙈

Dude, you really aren’t getting this. A console IS a PC. You can spend the same amount now on a PC as a console and get THE SAME LONGEVITY. A console doesn’t miraculously have tonnes more power because it’s a console - the reason the OG Xbox One was able to play new games in 2020 is because the settings were far lower than the games it ran in 2013. You can do this on a PC too… in fact, you have more control over HOW you do this. A PC from 2021 with the same specs as an Xbox One can play Halo Infinite at the same quality. There goes that point.

“Sweaty fat kit” - and here come the personal attacks and petty comments. Clear sign your argument is falling apart if you can’t actually stick to the point.

“9/10 times PCs only have better graphical options” - you’ve never used a PC, have you? You can still set games to 640x480 buddy. There goes that argument. The point isn’t that consoles are weaker than PCs - it’s that the value gets worse. Both Microsoft and Sony have increased the price of their systems but PC hardware has gone down. Eventually you get to the point where better hardware on PC is actually cheaper. Why even buy a console at this point?

“Free Walmart service and cheaters” - wow. You know there’s cheaters on console too right? And you know we use the same servers you do as most are provided by the game devs? 🤦🏻‍♂️

“Backwards compatibility is another debate entirely” - no it isn’t, you just don’t want to prove how badly you’d lose that argument.

PC wasn’t the worst platform hahaha - now you’re just resorting to making up shit? It’s pretty well known that the Xbox One and PS4 were by far the worst platforms the game launched on. But please, underline every embarrassing point which destabilises your argument with a lie - makes them easy to spot. I guess you lied here because the fact the PS4 Pro and One X struggled so much would collapse your whole argument about “$400 once a decade” when they couldn’t manage a game 3 years after launch. What about the fact that a version of the game which actually used the extra PS5/Series X power you paid for took a year to come out?

“It’s always muh PC has better graphics” - dude my entire argument has been about consoles just being PCs and PCs being a better value at the same price with cheaper games and free online. I get you want to argue graphics as it’s an easy point to dismiss, but I’ve literally never mentioned that? It’s crazy how many weak strategies you’re trying here.

When was I telling you to quit having fun? You were the dude calling people enjoying PCs losers and sweaty fat kids 😂

“Shaming people for having consoles? Really?” Followed by “you sweaty fat boys in your mum’s basement”. I didn’t even know people could lack this much self awareness. You criticise me “shaming consoles” (which I never did, just pointed out they ARE PCs these days and PCs can save you money) and you proceed to shame and attack what you perceive to be PC gamers. Amazing, honestly. Especially when you follow up with “we contribute to society and you need hygiene products”

Truly amazing you spent an entire paragraph shitting and shaming on people and criticised what you perceived to be someone doing it themselves.

The fact you made this into an emotion-fuelled rant about society and hygiene suggests I touched a nerve? Maybe you should investigate that in therapy, possibly subconsciously you wish you could afford a PC and my comments are making you realise you could’ve, but didn’t do your research? And instead of accepting that, you go out and personally attack a group of gamers. I hope you get help.

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xNaughtyJulia t1_jalpncu wrote

Console optimization. You go enjoy your shitty PC ports with stutters everywhere and broken optimization and not to mention denuvo while I pay 20 euro more on console but at least get a working product.

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RBTropical t1_jalza52 wrote

Again, that’s literally one game. Check out MW2, it actually runs better on AMD GPUs because CONSOLES ARE PCs.

Most ports don’t need to be optimised any more because the console hardware is the same. Again, this isn’t the PS3/360 generation buddy. You kinda just proved you didn’t read my post.

You go play games at upscaled 900p25 buddy, but keep talking to me about “optimisation” 🤦🏻‍♂️

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