Submitted by mysteryman20003 t3_y96l7q in consoles
[deleted] t1_it4dvei wrote
I just got a PS5 a week ago. Had an Xbox One X since it came out. Here are my thoughts:
- Games are king. Of course. If there is a must-play exclusive, then your decision is made. Assuming you don't have a PC.
- If you're thinking about getting a Series X, technically it's the more powerful system (we'll see whether or not PS5 "Pro" has anything to say about that). Both systems are going to compromise in either fidelity/quality, and performance/frames per second, so pick your poison on that front - neither is a PC, of course.
- PS5's storage is, effectively, twice as fast as Xbox Series, which could lead to some amazing things down the road, other than just fast load times. May or may not see use from devs, though.
- Xbox Series storage expansion is more expensive and proprietary, but, also, easier to install (plug it in), easier to swap between systems, and you can have as many as you want, and you can just start a catalog of memory cards if you need to, whereas on a PS5, when your internal storage and expanded storage m.2 port are full, you have to start swapping game installs to and from a USB drive if you're looking to play PS5 games that couldn't fit on the system storage. Proprietary, easier to use & transport, contained SSDs actually win this battle, if you ask me.
- UI doesn't really matter in the end. You're playing games, not menus. You'll adapt, either way.
- GamePass is an absolutely insane value. Plenty of first-party and third-party masterpieces, plus a ton of small dev/indie hidden gems that you can try and potentially fall in love with, as my wife, kid, and I all have.
- Playstation also has a lot of good games on PS+, but not the volume or variety of GamePass.
- Xbox has amazing backwards compatibility, in case you come across something from any of the previous generation that appeals to you.
- Series controller has better ergonomics, and the left analog stick being at the "neutral" thumb position makes way more sense for way more games than having a D-pad as the easier-to-reach option.
- DualSense controller has a built-in mic, mic & audio mute button (even mutes the TV if no headset is connected), touchpad, higher fidelity haptics (versus the small motors in Xbox's "Impulse" triggers), Adaptive Triggers (seriously amazing, I absolutely love it to pieces - personally, I'm big on physical immersion), a built-in speaker, and RGB lighting that games can tap into. It's an amazing controller, just not as ergonomic as the Series controller in the grips or analog stick placement. I'm disappointed all Xbox really added to the Xbox Series controller was a capture/record button, and slightly better grip ergonomics.
- Xbox Series' D-pad is actually too tactile and loud for my tastes (and I'm over here building a Kailh Box Navy keyboard). Xbox Series' bumpers are better than on the Xbox One controller's. Playstation's R1/L1 are crisp, but, at the same time, relaxed, much more muted souding (rubber domes vs Xbox's microswitches, I think). Xbox's triggers have a relatively consistent amount of force all the way through, whereas you can feel the spring forces increase slightly on DualSense. Xbox's triggers have a rubber stop at full-pull, so they have a nice "thock" sound to them when pulled quickly, whereas the DualShock, while not loud like Xbox 360, isn't as satisfying. Those Adaptive Triggers, when used by a game, though... glorious.
- It can be very convenient to swap a battery pack/AA batteries, and also have the option of a charging dock, etc. with Xbox's controller , whereas with DualSense you're not given the choice/if a controller didn't charge, you must plug it in, or wait for it to charge (the included cable isn't long enough for couch play).
- Personally, I think the Forza/Forza Horizon series is more fun than the racers on Playstation, and I have no intention of buying any for the PS5, currently. Granted, I have enough racers on PC, and a steering wheel setup.
- As far as I can tell, Sony's Pulse 3D audio processing for headphones sounds better than Windows Sonic (built in 3D protocol on Xbox). Dolby Atmos for Headphones or DTS:X on Xbox might match the quality of Sony's solution, but those other Xbox solutions cost extra. Sony's implementation also has 3D audio for the built-in speakers of your TV (I haven't tried that yet since I have a 5.1 speaker setup, not sure if it's any good).
- PSVR2 might be amazing. The hardware seems like it might be. Also: Adaptive Triggers in the controllers for that. Xbox is staying far away from VR (crazy, if you ask me). So, if you're even remotely interested, PS is your only console choice there. I also have plenty of gripes about my Quest 2, and self-contained/wireless VR, so PSVR2 being wired, rather than wireless isn't actually a detriment, IMO. If PSVR2 works on PC at all, and/or allows Beat Saber mods (that's not going to happen), I'd sell my Quest 2, actually. Wife requires custom songs, though, so that's how it is.
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So, I got along just fine without the handful of "must play" PS games of the past generation and a half (not a ton of variety, if you ask me - a bunch of gritty, emo, third-person, action-adventure games with the same camera POV, similar mechanics, chock full of QTEs, etc., just different enemies, stories, and heroes at the helm). Honestly, I think I missed out on more variety and hidden gems on PS3, my being a 360 guy back then. I straight up miss the variety and insanity (in a good way) that was the PS2 library...
When I think about it, the only reason I got an Xbox One X was because my friend was on the platform already, and wanted to play Monster Hunter World together. But, also, in hindsight, GamePass is stupid good, and I really do love Halo 5, and keep going back to it even after Infinite came out, so no actual regrets.
If I were you, since you still have a Series S, I would say keep it, and keep playing awesome GamePass stuff, etc., and keep access to the library of games you own, etc. But, also grab a PS5 (disc edition) and pick up some used discs of PS4 and PS5 games that you think are worthwhile. Then, if you're not completely sold on Playstation, you can sell the whole lot of hardware and discs (instead of having invested/locked yourself into their digital store) and get whatever you want at a later date. You'll lose some cash in the trade, but you'll be entertained by a PS5 and have been able to give that library a chance.
Let me know if you have questions/things you want me to test/try/feel for on the PS5. I'm good at feeling things. I don't actually have PS5 games yet/my PS+ trial just expired today and I'm not re-upping it for now (single income household, already doing GamePass and a Minecraft Realm, I don't need more video games). Definitely buying FFVII Remake sooner than later, though...
HygorMS t1_it6ugwp wrote
Honestly, PS+ has much more popular and bigger games than Gamepass right now.
[deleted] t1_it7n0un wrote
More popular than Minecraft, Undertale, Unpacking, Scorn, Chivalry II, Persona 5, the Yakuza series, every Halo game, Tunic, the Tom Clancy games, The Walking Dead games, The Outer Worlds, Skyrim, Oblivion, Marrowind, Terraria, Tetris Effect, TMNT Shredder's Revenge, Stardew Valley, all the modern Star Wars games, the Skate series, the Forza & Forza Horizon series, all the stuff on Rare Replay, the Doom games, the Quake games, Psychonauts, Powerwash Simulator, Payday 2, Outer Wilds, Octopath Traveler, No Man's Sky, the Ninja Gaiden series, the modern NFS games, pretty much every sports game that matters, the Mass Effect series, Hollow Knight, Hitman, Gears, DBFighterZ, Disney Dreamlight Valley, Crysis series, the Battlefield series, Astroneer, Ark, and Among Us... combined?
Maybe. Playstation has a much larger install base thanks to PS4.
But this high quality variety? PS+ doesn't even come close. For a while, Monster Hunter World, all the big FF games, and the KH series were an GamePass. I can't see sameone getting bored with what's there, and what's to come.
The six to ten "must have Playstation exclusives" are pretty much all just gritty, brooding, third-person action adventure games.
Swap out Aloy for Spider-Man for Nathan Drake for whoever-the-TLoU-characters-are, and swap a bow for a web shooter, for an AK-47, for... another AK-47, and yeah. Woo. Poular games are popular. Just because they sell well dosen't mean it's good to drown in it.
Minecraft is pretty dang popular. I don't need forty Minecraft-like games.
HygorMS t1_it7rdpn wrote
Basically God Of War is by itself more popular than all of those together and honestly, as a popular opinion, it's also better in quality than all of those games.
Taking in consideration basically all PlayStation exclusives (which you're being extremely unfair about, since you have games like Ghost Of Tsushima, Infamous, Killzone, Gran Turismo, Bloodborne, Demon Souls, etc... which all scape from that formula (that doesn't even exist) you're talking about) combined with all the Final Fantasy games and basically most of Ubisoft titles, Mafia games, Saints Row, Shadow Warrior and overall lots of the games you mentioned too, like Hollow Knight, Outer Wilds, some Yakuza and Tom Clancy's games, I find PS+ way better. Even better when you get the version that has the PS1/2/3 streaming with all those classic games while XBox Gamepass has only a few retro games to play. There is more quantity and quality at the same time on PS5's service.
You're also talking like the most played and enjoyed games aren't the third person shooters/action RPG.
And it's really dumb to use games that Gamepass once HAD to compare to the games PS+ HAS right NOW.
If you can't seem to get bored with what's there, I can assure you you'd have even a harder time getting bored on the PS+ subscription. Literally the only point where Gamepass wins is the price.
Btw, wtf are you talking about? How is Spiderman any similar to those other games? Also, it's obvious that Uncharted and TLOU are similar. They're from the same developers. And Horizon Zero Dawn has literally nothing to do with those games, the only similarities are the third person camera and the fact that you shoot something. Following your logic, 70% of the games are copies from those games. That's just wrong. You clearly haven't played any of the Must Play PS Exclusives.
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