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Anubra_Khan t1_j0ua4c8 wrote

Series S is a trap. It's a cool system for its size and price point but it doesn't do what PS5/Series X do. It has super low storage and, as soon as you buy extra storage, you're already within the PS5/Series X price range. It actually puts you over the digital PS5 price.

Additionally, not having a disc drive costs you money in the long run. Finding games for under $10 (or even free) that are otherwise $60 digitally pays off any up front "savings" real quick.

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1northfield t1_j0uik3v wrote

Gamepass solves that problem

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Anubra_Khan t1_j0ulumi wrote

It does not. Game Pass is great but it doesn't have access to every game. Not by a long shot.

Using Dark Souls 3 as a recent example. A 7 year old game with DLC is typically $80. It goes on sale once or twice a year for $40. Or you can buy a new copy from Walmart all year for $20. Used copy for $10. You can find games all of the time under $10 that aren't on game pass. After finding just 2 or 3 games that you would otherwise buy digitally, you break even. Over the life of the console, physical copies can save you a lot of money.

I don't know how Game Pass adds to the Series S 360gb of useable storage. But I do know if you buy the proprietary 500gb expansion, you've already exceeded the cost of the superior PS5 digital and you're in range of the Series X/PS5 with drive.

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1northfield t1_j0un595 wrote

Dark Souls 3 digital deluxe edition £16.99 on CD Keys right now ($20.71).

Storage is only an issue if you switch round plenty of games constantly, you can still store lots and lots of games on a Series S.

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Anubra_Khan t1_j0upqli wrote

CD Keys are pretty shady and you can't really sell or trade them but ok.

Having 3 - 5 games is not lots and lots. I'm sure there is a small market for some people but for anyone who plans on playing for more than a year or 2, they'll likely be spending more money than they would on another system.

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1northfield t1_j0ur7f6 wrote

CD Keys are not shady.

So if the Series S can only hold 3-5 games with 360gb, that means the PS5 can only have 5-8 games stored as it’s only got 307gb more storage than the Series S, considering the PS4 was considered to have a high attachment rate of 9.6 games per console sold then I would say that ‘only’ 3-5 at any one time is sufficient.

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Anubra_Khan t1_j0ux0hg wrote

PS5/Series X are superior to the Series S. If you're going digital, the PS5 is just $100 more and has more storage. I'm sure it's great for some people. But I'm sure a lot more people will feel regret when the got to extend their storage and realize they could be gaming on a better system for less money at that point. It's just good info to know for people who aren't sure what system to buy (like OP).

If your opinion differs from mine, tell OP. He's the one who asked. You're not changing my mind and I'm not sure why you're trying to.

I'm not sure what PS4 has to do with anything or why you brought it up.

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1northfield t1_j0v0xtn wrote

All the different consoles have Pro’s and Cons, one is not better than another, it all depends on what you want from a console. I mentioned the PS4 attachment rate to illustrate that the vast majority of people hardly purchase games and therefore smaller storage like you get on the Series S and PS5 are not normally a problem for most people and obviously the PS4 is a system that we can look at the ‘whole life’ numbers of games purchased and is not influenced by Gamepass like the Xbox one is

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klljmnnj t1_j0uhob2 wrote

It is not trap. It is not same as ps5/series x but for price it is great console.

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Anubra_Khan t1_j0ukc41 wrote

I believe it is if you consider the storage. Series S only has 360gb of usable storage. The PS5 has 667gb. Buying the 500mb storage expansion for Series S makes it more expensive than the digital PS5.

So, if you want more than 3-5 games on your system, you pay more for the less capable Series S for a 150ish more useable storage than the PS5.

And, if you're going to spend that much, might as well save and get the Series X or PS5 with a drive because the cheap physical games will pay off the $100 difference for a drive after buying (or borrowing) 2 physical games. In the end, the consoles without drives are more expensive.

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klljmnnj t1_j0um8q3 wrote

As I said, it is not same as ps5 or series X but for price it is great console. Lot of people don't play more then 5 games or care about 4k 60fps. Just read label and if that meets your expectations it is great console.

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Darkfantasy11691 t1_j0uzj8z wrote

There is literally no argument for the S. Mr Khan gave you concrete responses from the start. Also the 60fps alone is a massive upgrade, especially as most people will be playing on fairly large screens these days. People don’t care about 4k and 60fps until they play it. Once you go back it’s horrible.

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klljmnnj t1_j0vjnz3 wrote

200$ difference is argument. I am really happy for people to whom that is insignificant amount but unfortunately for many it is a lot for the entertainment box.

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TheTopGee t1_j0ylzox wrote

You can buy a 500gb hard drive for 30$ and play games from that, obviously the ps5 is better but if your sole argument is storage then you want a disk version anyways, then the series s is a lot better value with a 30$ external hard drive.

CDKeys, game pass and store sales are a lot better than buying physical games by a mile.

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Anubra_Khan t1_j0yn184 wrote

You're wrong. Xbox Series S has a proprietary Seagate extension that I haven't seen dip under $100.

Game Pass doesn't have anywhere close to all available games. Good luck selling or trading your old CD Keys and digital sales are still 2x as much as a used physical disk without sales (and you can sell/trade them).

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TheTopGee t1_j0yn9e0 wrote

That you don’t need to buy though? My dads still using the same external hard drive from his Xbox one on his Xbox series s, you don’t need to buy that one.

If you’re buying games for 70 and selling them for 10 when you’re done you’re a moron anyways. Just buy to keep. I can guarantee I can get any game from cd keys cheaper than a second hand game in store.

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Anubra_Khan t1_j0ynyph wrote

Those USB's only play old games. They don't play upgraded Xbox One games or current gen games. Only the proprietary Seagate plays current gen games.

Nobody's buying games for $70 and selling for $10. You get games for $5 - $10 at thrift stores/yardsales/fb marketplace or you can pay $60 for the digital versions.

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TheTopGee t1_j0zt1up wrote

Don’t all new games come with two versions? Even still, you don’t need to play them directly from the hard drive, you can swap them back and forth from console to external hard drive, your comment about extending storage for 200$ is just stupid when it doesn’t cost that much at all. You’ve clearly never used Cd keys have you. Keep waiting to buy 2-3 year old games at thrift stores for 5$, or you can simply buy cheap a month or two after a release from cd keys. Just stop commenting back you’re making yourself out to be stupid.

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Anubra_Khan t1_j0zx1eo wrote

The $30 external HD that you love so much is slow. Swapping games from one drive to the next takes forever. All new games don't come with 2 versions. Extended storage of $100, not $200. I use CD Keys to buy games on my PC that I already have on console. Nobody waits to find games at thrift stores. You're not grasping the concept.

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TheTopGee t1_j0zzwxi wrote

I don’t love it so much it’s not even mine, I’ve got a series x, disk version of the PS5 and a PC I don’t have storage issues hahaha. It’s not like you need to swap games back and forward all the time is it, you’re not grasping the concept. The series s is a good console for the money, discussion over.

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chakrablocker t1_j0v5i0c wrote

Proprietary storage is a trap. 200 for a tb of storage on a 250 console is totally a trap.

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TheTopGee t1_j0ymdap wrote

Especially when you can get an external hard drive for £30-£40 and play games directly from that.

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