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People were telling me how should i buy PS5, but it is too expensive and rarely on sale. Xbox series S can run new gen games. Does Xbox Series S have issues with overheating, crashes and frame drops?
No overheating, frames are constant, runs 4K, crashes as much as series x (very little). Amazing system for its price
The Series S doesn't run 4k. It's a 1440p, 120fps console. And even then, most games run 1440, 60 fps.
Most games are capped at 30 fps and don’t share a performance mode with series X and PS5.
This isn’t due to innate imitations, but developer choices. Modern vintage gamer (MVG) talks about his experience developing for series S - it doesn’t receive its own dev kit - series s and x have one dev kit between them.
That means you switch the dev kit to series S mode and reduce the features until the performance and resolution are stable. If development favours the series X (which it does), most devs resort to a 30 fps cap to get their game running on series S.
If frame rate AND resolution aren’t a priority for you, series S is great value.
If you want 60 fps and/or 4K - this is not the console for you.
It really depends on the game though, while certain games I totally agree, more mainstream games like call of duty, battlefield, need for speed, and even cyberpunk, run extremely well at 60 fps with max graphics
Not max graphics. No ray tracing and significantly lower resolution.
You guys are gaslighting OP if you’re saying that series S provides a reliable 60hz on the average modern game.
I think you just got a shit one if yours can’t
It’s worth noting that the series S can play about twice as many games at 120fps than the PS5 can, just a lower resolution
So… three or four last gen titles? Nothing developed after 2020 that’s cross platform runs at 120 hz
What, like Warzone 2, knockout city, Metal Hellsinger, psychonaughts 2
I have series X and PS5. I wouldn’t waste my time with a low performing console.
Xbox one X often hits higher resolution and has more compute units on the GPU.
OP - nothing wrong with a series S, but do not expect high performance moving forward.
There are plenty of developer videos bemoaning the series S. you won’t see third party releases hit 60fps moving forward.
Or you can believe these (clearly broke) jokers who bought a cheap console.
LOL I too have a Series X and a PS5 (and a Series S, in fact I have almost every mainstream console ever made as well as an arcade machine that I built myself running emulators and of course a reasonably powerful gaming PC with a 3080ti), just so you know the developers moaning about the Series S holding back the generation was debunked multiple times now (the main one was a graphic artist I believe) digital foundry have done videos on the issue. The fact of the matter is that you may not like the low power on the Series S but that doesn’t make it a poor choice for most people, for instance are you happy with the low power (compared to a decent gaming PC) of your PS5 and Series S or are you just a (clearly broke) joker who is happy with the compromises a less powerful console gives you?
>frames are constant, runs 4k
You've quite clearly purchased a different Series S to the rest of the planet, because this ain't it.
> crashes as much as series x (very little)
It crashes???? I've had systems for 30 years and the only "crash" I've ever had was when a disc laser was failing and the game froze. I've never had a system actually crash like a computer, wtf?
Series S is a trap. It's a cool system for its size and price point but it doesn't do what PS5/Series X do. It has super low storage and, as soon as you buy extra storage, you're already within the PS5/Series X price range. It actually puts you over the digital PS5 price.
Additionally, not having a disc drive costs you money in the long run. Finding games for under $10 (or even free) that are otherwise $60 digitally pays off any up front "savings" real quick.
Gamepass solves that problem
It does not. Game Pass is great but it doesn't have access to every game. Not by a long shot.
Using Dark Souls 3 as a recent example. A 7 year old game with DLC is typically $80. It goes on sale once or twice a year for $40. Or you can buy a new copy from Walmart all year for $20. Used copy for $10. You can find games all of the time under $10 that aren't on game pass. After finding just 2 or 3 games that you would otherwise buy digitally, you break even. Over the life of the console, physical copies can save you a lot of money.
I don't know how Game Pass adds to the Series S 360gb of useable storage. But I do know if you buy the proprietary 500gb expansion, you've already exceeded the cost of the superior PS5 digital and you're in range of the Series X/PS5 with drive.
Dark Souls 3 digital deluxe edition £16.99 on CD Keys right now ($20.71).
Storage is only an issue if you switch round plenty of games constantly, you can still store lots and lots of games on a Series S.
CD Keys are pretty shady and you can't really sell or trade them but ok.
Having 3 - 5 games is not lots and lots. I'm sure there is a small market for some people but for anyone who plans on playing for more than a year or 2, they'll likely be spending more money than they would on another system.
CD Keys are not shady.
So if the Series S can only hold 3-5 games with 360gb, that means the PS5 can only have 5-8 games stored as it’s only got 307gb more storage than the Series S, considering the PS4 was considered to have a high attachment rate of 9.6 games per console sold then I would say that ‘only’ 3-5 at any one time is sufficient.
PS5/Series X are superior to the Series S. If you're going digital, the PS5 is just $100 more and has more storage. I'm sure it's great for some people. But I'm sure a lot more people will feel regret when the got to extend their storage and realize they could be gaming on a better system for less money at that point. It's just good info to know for people who aren't sure what system to buy (like OP).
If your opinion differs from mine, tell OP. He's the one who asked. You're not changing my mind and I'm not sure why you're trying to.
I'm not sure what PS4 has to do with anything or why you brought it up.
All the different consoles have Pro’s and Cons, one is not better than another, it all depends on what you want from a console. I mentioned the PS4 attachment rate to illustrate that the vast majority of people hardly purchase games and therefore smaller storage like you get on the Series S and PS5 are not normally a problem for most people and obviously the PS4 is a system that we can look at the ‘whole life’ numbers of games purchased and is not influenced by Gamepass like the Xbox one is
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It is not trap. It is not same as ps5/series x but for price it is great console.
I believe it is if you consider the storage. Series S only has 360gb of usable storage. The PS5 has 667gb. Buying the 500mb storage expansion for Series S makes it more expensive than the digital PS5.
So, if you want more than 3-5 games on your system, you pay more for the less capable Series S for a 150ish more useable storage than the PS5.
And, if you're going to spend that much, might as well save and get the Series X or PS5 with a drive because the cheap physical games will pay off the $100 difference for a drive after buying (or borrowing) 2 physical games. In the end, the consoles without drives are more expensive.
As I said, it is not same as ps5 or series X but for price it is great console. Lot of people don't play more then 5 games or care about 4k 60fps. Just read label and if that meets your expectations it is great console.
There is literally no argument for the S. Mr Khan gave you concrete responses from the start. Also the 60fps alone is a massive upgrade, especially as most people will be playing on fairly large screens these days. People don’t care about 4k and 60fps until they play it. Once you go back it’s horrible.
200$ difference is argument. I am really happy for people to whom that is insignificant amount but unfortunately for many it is a lot for the entertainment box.
You can buy a 500gb hard drive for 30$ and play games from that, obviously the ps5 is better but if your sole argument is storage then you want a disk version anyways, then the series s is a lot better value with a 30$ external hard drive.
CDKeys, game pass and store sales are a lot better than buying physical games by a mile.
You're wrong. Xbox Series S has a proprietary Seagate extension that I haven't seen dip under $100.
Game Pass doesn't have anywhere close to all available games. Good luck selling or trading your old CD Keys and digital sales are still 2x as much as a used physical disk without sales (and you can sell/trade them).
That you don’t need to buy though? My dads still using the same external hard drive from his Xbox one on his Xbox series s, you don’t need to buy that one.
If you’re buying games for 70 and selling them for 10 when you’re done you’re a moron anyways. Just buy to keep. I can guarantee I can get any game from cd keys cheaper than a second hand game in store.
Those USB's only play old games. They don't play upgraded Xbox One games or current gen games. Only the proprietary Seagate plays current gen games.
Nobody's buying games for $70 and selling for $10. You get games for $5 - $10 at thrift stores/yardsales/fb marketplace or you can pay $60 for the digital versions.
Don’t all new games come with two versions? Even still, you don’t need to play them directly from the hard drive, you can swap them back and forth from console to external hard drive, your comment about extending storage for 200$ is just stupid when it doesn’t cost that much at all. You’ve clearly never used Cd keys have you. Keep waiting to buy 2-3 year old games at thrift stores for 5$, or you can simply buy cheap a month or two after a release from cd keys. Just stop commenting back you’re making yourself out to be stupid.
The $30 external HD that you love so much is slow. Swapping games from one drive to the next takes forever. All new games don't come with 2 versions. Extended storage of $100, not $200. I use CD Keys to buy games on my PC that I already have on console. Nobody waits to find games at thrift stores. You're not grasping the concept.
I don’t love it so much it’s not even mine, I’ve got a series x, disk version of the PS5 and a PC I don’t have storage issues hahaha. It’s not like you need to swap games back and forward all the time is it, you’re not grasping the concept. The series s is a good console for the money, discussion over.
Uh huh
Proprietary storage is a trap. 200 for a tb of storage on a 250 console is totally a trap.
Especially when you can get an external hard drive for £30-£40 and play games directly from that.
If you're looking for something on budget, or need to save. The Series S is a great choice. But if you have the money, I'd recommend getting the Series X. All depends though. If you're a competitive gamer, get the Series X, it has a slightly better performance and I find the controller better. If you're more into chill, story games. Get a PS5. The PS5 has many exclusives, but mainly for linear, story games.
Some of it is down to your opinion. Also, if you own a SONY TV, the PS5 gets exclusive benefits.
The play station 5 price is way above the series S even after buying an external drive
yeah, I got my nephews a Series S for xmas. 230.00, a USB 3.0 hard 1tb hard drive is like 40 bucks. Internal storage holds about 3-5 modern games. External drive for archive to keep from re-downloading. he has a 1080p tv that if we are lucky might push 60hz so will never see the 4k 60fps advantages of any of the bigger consoles. But he can play the new games that do not release on the ps4/one
Its a good console i went from ps4 to series s its good yes but in my opinion I prefer ps
My Mrs has an S (I have the X) and there's not a huge noticeable difference. She plays on a 24" 1080p monitor. (While I use the 58" 4K TV). It's an amazing bit of kit, especially for the price. And GamePass is a steal.
Personally I haven't found my PS5 to be worth it all. The interface isn't as nice and the exclusive games aren't my bag.
Get a series S. I don't think you'd regret it.
OP.
Just take in consideration what your money is buying you and go from there. Plain and simple.
The Series S is a bang for buck stepping stone between last gen and current gen. It is limited in power and storage space in comparison to the series x and PlayStation 5 - however this isn’t necessarily a bad thing depending on the consumer.
OP do you play one or two games at a time and that’s it?
Are you bothered about 1440/4K res? Because contrary to what most people are saying here the series S very rarely manages a native 1440p resolution on games (check pm any Digital Foundry review) and if it does you’re slung to 30FPS territory.
Again - not a bad thing so long as you’re not expecting the latest and greatest in visuals.
Digital or disc? Digital only console and with very little space - if you shuffle a lot of games at once the series S quickly becomes rather redundant imo if you’re going to buy a storage upgrade - yes you can buy a much cheaper external SSD for stuff such as older gen Xbox games.
!Remember that disc is still far cheaper majority of the time than digital - especially on new releases!
Essentially the Series S is a budget friendly console - it is absolutely fantastic at what it does and as the original Xbox ones (hopefully) get dropped I’m hoping the series S and X see more development dedication.
Frame drops are going to happen regardless of the console you purchase as they’re are largely more of a hardware limitation issue and/or development targets. -- Most games are made to run at stable frame rates - but it does happen.
Buy whatever console YOU as a consumer want not what everybody else tells you.
I have the PS5 and SX, yes I love the exclusives on PS5 and controller but nothing beats the SX for me, quick resume, huge backwards compat catalogue, game pass? What’s not to love.
Imho and this is just me chucking my two cents in - Consider the series X as it’s pricing is between the PS5 and Series S - you get the top tier performance, it’ll be a slow burner for this gen but ultimately as developers hopefully begin to utilise the power under the hood the Series X will truly show its presence :)
The Series S is similar in power with the PS4 Pro, which is a very competent gaming console even today. The Series S however has much faster storage so games can load faster yada yada yada.
All of this is sort of meaningless. Does the console support the games you like to play? That's the most important criterion for shopping. I spent a crap ton of hours this week playing Mario + Rabbids on a Nintendo switch which is probably less powerful than the mobile phone in my pocket. For me, I got the Xbox Series X for two reasons: 1TB of storage built-in, as well as a 4k-HDR capable blu-ray drive since I'm one of those dinosaurs who still buys some movies on disc.
The games you want to play, and the other features are the most important factor in choosing which console you buy, and that is only if you have to choose. If gaming is a hobby of yours and you have the financial means, there is no reason you can't have one of each.
Nope.
I am thinking to buying it. I got already ps4 in the living room, so I am thinking to buy Series S to put it in my room and to play on 1080p monitor. I want Series S because it can run for example new gen version of NBA 2K23
In that case, go for it, you won't regret it. The only thing to take into considerations are the specs (at least for performance mode) and the storage available. If you manage yourself which games to install, this is not something I would worry about.
A PC can not do the same for such a low price.
As my personal experience, I have a Series X, my friends a Series S. All of them are very happy with the console and not regret the decision at all. I even think to buy a Series S for me for my girlfriend's appartment.
And it seems like a great alternative to a Gaming PC
You got a point
I think it's okay as a secondary console but has limitations that I would never consider it for a primary console. I have PS5, XSX, and XSS and use all three. The XSS is limited in resolution as most games are 1440p or 1080p at 30 fps, sometimes 60 fps. And the limited storage for a digital only console means you'll either be seriously managing your storage space all the time or forking out more money for a storage upgrade, which is still expensive so you might as well get a better console anyways.
It's totally worth the price, as you can access to an extensive libray for less than 300$ (including exclusive titles on console like the upcoming Starfield or Forza).
Moreover, you can wait until PS5 drops its price and then grab it. The question to ask yourself is how important PS exclusives are for you and which type of games do you like the most. I would not worry for the console performance or the deprecation of it.
It's a garbage system compared to the Series X/PS5 and also the very definition of false economy
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No Disc drive and only 500 gb of storage. Its the lesser of SX
Game developers are trying to get Microsoft to drop the Series S, as it isn't much better than the previous generation and Microsoft insist on all games on the series X is compatible with the series S. Game developers are saying the series S substantially nerf the games they are bringing out.
It can run 4K there’s an option for it in video settings, and I have no problems, maybe your confusing it with the 1 S
Yes you can set it to 4k, but it still runs VERY few games at 4k or anywhere near with most games running around 1080p.
True, but halo, forza and cyberpunk as well as a few others do run 4K , all Xbox exclusives do,
No no Xbox is worth of fir playstation If u can't afford a good pc
Series S is game dev's worst nightmare. Less memory, worse gpu. It's the main reason games are not better right now, because we need to support that console.
The only marketing difference between the s and (X and PS5) is that it targets 1080p 60fps instead of 4k. It's not supposed to be a worse experience than a series X though... Just a very annoying target to support for game devs.
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Yes it is great i havr had it for 6 months now no let downs what so ever.