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4alark t1_j8e822y wrote

This is really interesting. I can see why the Super Bowl would be a spike, but the Monday after seems strange. If anything, I'd expect it to be even lower than an average Monday, because so many people just went out the night before? Maybe it was a fluke, several years running. Do you compare tips with other dancers, and find they have a similar Superbowl Monday experience? Likely they aren't keeping such careful records. Fingers crossed you have a great night tonight!

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8e9bd9 wrote

I definitely hesitate to draw any global conclusions. If you look at my post with all my daily earnings over four years you see things can be quite spiky, so this could very well be a four-time fluke. My one theory would be that people who won money on the Super Bowl might want to spend it the next day. But to your point, I never talked with other dancers who had detailed records. :)

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TokoBlaster t1_j8gc9zi wrote

This might be hard to do depending on your records, but maybe check other earnings around other sporting events? It might be gambling winnings, and while it probably can't prove it, it might yield a trend.

It doesn't have to be major sporting events either like the super bowl, it might just be general sports gambling, which would be crazy fun and interesting to see! So maybe dig through records around other sporting events!

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ifknot t1_j8eab6g wrote

Fascinating but I suspect the null hypothesis remains unmoved

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LeverageToMyPRT t1_j8fhfg2 wrote

No way you just invoked the null hypothesis to a stripper

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8g8jc2 wrote

Is the implication that a stripper wouldn't know what "null hypothesis" means? 😂

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pleetf7 t1_j8gifwa wrote

I think he is implying that assuming the stripper population follows a normal distribution, knowledge of the null hypothesis is likely concentrated in samples several standard deviations above the mean.

Either that or he’s schooling me on how to chat up a stripper. I’m too socially awkward to figure out which is which.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8gkxk5 wrote

It might not be true for all strippers but I definitely prefer talking nerdy over talking dirty.

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cosmohurtskids t1_j8g9k4i wrote

I think their are definitely outliers in every profession. I would wager a bet that you are in the 99th percentile.

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ifknot t1_j8g8pur wrote

“Stripper” “Data Scientist” potato potato

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tokable t1_j8furee wrote

When you win big bets on the Super Bowl (or any game for that matter) you are obligated to hit the strip club and pass along some of the winnings. It's like tithing for gamblers.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8fyz17 wrote

Thank you for educating everyone about this! :)

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MyAccountIsLate t1_j8e8qtp wrote

I'd be curious on the trailing 4 week Mon average, post 4 week average, and general Mon averages to see if it's just Monday blues

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AftyOfTheUK t1_j8ek8or wrote

>This is really interesting. I can see why the Super Bowl would be a spike, but the Monday after seems strange. If anything, I'd expect it to be even lower than an average Monday, because so many people just went out the night before?

You're assuming that people who went out the night before stopped partying to go to sleep. There are going to be a ton of people who party through Superbowl, get on the marching powder, and just carry on the next day. And all the people who choose to travel and make long weekends out of it.

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Majestic_Salad_I1 t1_j8gipwj wrote

Sunday night 12:01am is technically Monday. That’s when the real party starts.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8gz9w0 wrote

I should have noted that for my accounting I did not split my money at midnight. Money earned up to 2am Monday is filed into Sunday's shift.

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pleetf7 t1_j8e6do3 wrote

Looks like the stripper who told me she was in school for a stats degree wasn’t lying. Told you she was being honest with me, Tony!

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8eawnl wrote

Ha I would hope someone in school for a stats degree would make something better than a basic bar graph. :)

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Skthewimp t1_j8g5xt7 wrote

Really knowing stats is to be able to communicate effectively with simple things like bar graphs!

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8e38cb wrote

HOW I MADE THE VISUALIZATION: Numbers and Photoshop. Over the years I always kept a daily log of my earnings and other data.

BACKGROUND: A few weeks ago I posted my daily stripper earnings over four years. My initial comment on that post has a lot of basic info about strip club earnings if you are interested (all earnings shown are net after tip-outs and fees but before taxes). Some commenters asked if the Super Bowl brought in extra revenue so I decided to take a look. Keep in mind that this is ONE stripper's experience over only four Super Bowls.

ABOUT THE DAILY AVERAGE: I considered a few options for what to compare the Super Bowl Sunday and Monday earnings to. I went with the entire prior year's average (counting from the Tuesday after the prior Super Bowl to the Saturday before the relevant Super Bowl). As you can see, my average went up as the years went on and I became better at earning, so maybe it's unfair to use shifts as old as 11 months prior. I considered using an average from some time prior AND after the game. I also considered using Sunday and Monday shifts only because days of the week did tend to be different. Curious to hear thoughts on what would be the most interesting comparison.

LOCAL EFFECT: None of the Super Bowls were played where I danced (Los Angeles area) which obviously would have had a huge impact because of the influx of visitors. Only one game featured an LA team. Anecdotally, I did notice a boost in earnings on days when regular NFL games were played locally. I remember one busy Sunday afternoon in particular when there was a blowout and tons of fans from both teams bailed on the game early and came to the strip club instead.

WAS SUPER BOWL RELEVANT AT ALL: Looking back on my notes, I can point to lots of factors that may have influenced my earnings. The 2/5/17 Super Bowl ($84) was at a club that I was doing very poorly at, so my low earnings were actually not bad for that spot at that time (the Raiders bikiniI I wore may have helped or hurt my cause). The Monday after the 2/4/18 Super Bowl ($1,670) was my best shift ever and was thanks to a one-time-only high-rolling customer. I didn't even do any private dances with him; he just tipped me while I sat and talked with him. He said he was spending because of his divorce, but who knows, maybe he had won a lot of Super Bowl bets the day before. The Monday after the 2/2/20 Super Bowl similarly included a one-time-only medium-rolling customer (along with two of my regulars).

I WAS NOT OVULATING: I got this question so many times on my last post that I'm just pre-empting it here. I do not ovulate.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A RUDE COMMENT: My last post had plenty, so in addition to being offensive and unfunny, just know that you are also being unoriginal.

Thanks for reading!

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Ronjun t1_j8eg46m wrote

Wtf is up with the ovulation questions!? Like, what's the theory here, that if you ovulate your make more money?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8egmyb wrote

Apparently there was some study years ago positing that strippers earn more when ovulating.

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Ronjun t1_j8egrv6 wrote

TIL... Also inappropriate that they are asking you that

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AftyOfTheUK t1_j8ek2xl wrote

>TIL... Also inappropriate that they are asking you that

I mean, I didn't ask it, but it's pretty relevant if you're talking about reasons why earnings might increase.

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saskwatzch t1_j8f7wpg wrote

unless there are bears around. bears can smell the menstruation

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scaredycat_z t1_j8f1opk wrote

I think more interesting than the SB+Monday earnings is your daily average growth rate during those four years.

You mention that you were doing poorly in the 2017 club, and it shows that after you left you had a 43.75% increase in daily earnings. Next year was only 14%, but after that you had a 54.52% bump. Would be interesting to know what changed from in that year.

Was it something you were doing, or was it something beyond your control?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8f85i3 wrote

Thanks for pointing that out. I went into a lot of detail about that in my post from a few weeks ago that showed all my daily earnings over four years. :)

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cheesebrah t1_j8gaqqa wrote

you are one of the most orgainzed strippers ive seen than. i use to bounce at a strip club and most strippers never kept track of their money, spent it all lol.

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drquaithe t1_j8e950f wrote

I would be curious how it compares to other Sundays and Mondays specifically

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8e9o7m wrote

I was thinking I should separate those out -- thanks for taking a look!

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QuitCallingNewsrooms t1_j8eel6c wrote

Agreed. I’d probably break out everyday if the week for averages, break out national championships for other sports, national holidays, compare the weeks before and after those events, and see if it tells me a story of what days I should focus on working and when to take off to maximize earnings and minimize hours of work.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8eh3nt wrote

An analysis like this might work on a more macro level for all strippers but the vast majority of my earnings in later years were from my regular customers. So I arranged my work schedule to accommodate them.

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QuitCallingNewsrooms t1_j8ehf3e wrote

Ah, regulars! I hadn’t considered them yet when I was speculating on what variables drove the YOY growth since it shows some notable expansion

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SciGuy45 t1_j8e80cg wrote

Well done more than doubling your earnings

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nickfill4honor t1_j8fh1z9 wrote

People give strippers a bad rap. You’re more organized and in the know of your personal finances than 80% of people. Bravo

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8fkhqq wrote

Ha thanks. As I mentioned in another comment, I had previously worked salaried corporate jobs but being in a cash business of this nature made me much more in tune with my finances.

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nickfill4honor t1_j8fwbyv wrote

That’s great! It definitely is a switch up in employment and paying standards. What made you make the change of profession if you don’t mind me asking?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8fxxfq wrote

Just got burnt out on corporate life and always wanted to be a dancer :)

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InternationalBand494 t1_j8fzstg wrote

Good for you! Dancers provide a very valuable service. I don’t go to the club anymore, but when I did, I enjoyed seeing the women I’d made friends with. We would sit and talk almost their whole shift.

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mirabiledic2 t1_j8eazgf wrote

Can someone show the projected number of DMs this person will get in the next 24 hours compared to baseline?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8ebbg9 wrote

Zero as compared to zero. My DMs are closed on all public platforms :)

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areyoureadyboots t1_j8ejdb3 wrote

Yeah because you’re on here not so subtly promoting your OnlyFans like the other OF promoters who are ruining this sub.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8f9lsn wrote

I didn't mention it here but thank you for pointing that out ;)

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mirabiledic2 t1_j8ebeul wrote

Scratch that—just checked their profile—change DM to OnlyFans subs.

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Want_To_Live_To_100 t1_j8f4th8 wrote

This made me realize… I have no idea how much I make per day… never really thought about it per day

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8f98pg wrote

I worked salaried corporate jobs until I started stripping when I was 37 and the switch to 1) variable earnings, 2) daily accounting, and 3) cash earnings really changed my perspective on my income and spending.

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Independent-Soil5265 t1_j8e45nv wrote

I wonder if it's the winners spending or the losers coping

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8e4b7n wrote

Based on my experience with non-Super Bowl NFL games that were played locally, it was both!

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thirdaccount33 t1_j8fh8de wrote

Will the stripper earnings series continue with a Valentine's Day analysis?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8fimbq wrote

Ha I just checked and I only worked two Valentine's Days (because of days of the week). Both were higher than average though.

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ap1msch t1_j8ee35n wrote

This is actually pretty insightful! Being a Patriots fan, I'm well aware of the pace of 3 of the 4 games you share, as well as the last Chiefs win. The quality of the game seems to negatively impact earnings, but only in terms of "come back victories". The game against the Rams was a great game, with a defensive showcase, but even with the home team playing, it wasn't enough to distract the locals.

Without the first game, it would seem consistent that you make a bit more during and shortly after the game. (Perhaps "winnings" by bettors?) Perhaps someone won big in 2018?

Regardless, you obviously upped your earnings each year, which is commendable for anyone. =) Keep it up, and Go Patriots! =)

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8efa7j wrote

Thank you -- the last point is the one that was most important to me!

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ap1msch t1_j8ejeub wrote

I feel the same way about the Patriots. =)

j/k...you keep doing you.

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the_genius324 t1_j8eh2yy wrote

It's clear that the patriots are the only thing stopping you from getting money

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MrMisties t1_j8esolq wrote

Fuck those are some hot graphs. Include this in your routine I BEG

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Das-Tronz t1_j8fpv6b wrote

Going to say that monday after spike is likely due to those people who hit the bag on their bets. Get the bag, try to play with the bags, go home with a sag.

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Jasondbaker31 t1_j8efywr wrote

Looks like you have possibly become a better stripper as your daily average in ‘17 was $208 and now it is $530. Even with inflation that is a significant increase in your weekly average.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8ege46 wrote

Definitely. If you look at my post from a few weeks ago you can see my daily earnings rise over four years.

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Schwiliinker t1_j8fjd7m wrote

How do you earn $1670 in a day?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8fkmd7 wrote

One very big high-roller tipped me about $2,000 for sitting and talking with him (my net take-home was less because of tip-outs and house fees).

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0OOOOOOOOO0 t1_j8flwvo wrote

She said it was due to a single high-roller, so that kinda reduces the meaning of the data for me

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InternationalBand494 t1_j8fzi4z wrote

Interesting to see how your daily average has gone up through experience and getting more regular customers (I’m assuming) 2/5/18 was a great day

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8g1vbm wrote

It was a slow learning curve for me. And you're right, the regulars were the majority of income in the later years.

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InternationalBand494 t1_j8g528x wrote

From what I gathered as a customer and just talking to the dancers, the job takes a large amount of finesse as far as social skills go, plus athleticism, empathy. and self discipline if they want to be successful long term.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8g84v6 wrote

Yeo, all accurate!

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InternationalBand494 t1_j8gcoqs wrote

Too bad I can’t be a dancer now that I know what makes one successful. No one will pay to watch a pale 50 year old man flail around on stage. Doesn’t matter how good my social skills may be.

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x021 t1_j8g2d1a wrote

This is some awesome data. Thank you!

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ARealBlueFalcon t1_j8g5yui wrote

I am shocked you don’t earn more. The data is interesting. I’d be interested to see a more granular chart. Or more looks at it (holidays, days of the week, month etc). The descriptive statistics would be interesting as well.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8g7zbq wrote

Not sure if you saw my link in my top level comment but I posted all my daily earnings over four years a few weeks ago: post here.

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ARealBlueFalcon t1_j8gh4hp wrote

I did not see that. That is awesome that you track it. I’d imagine that would be helpful with shift decisions. I am going to dig into it tomorrow.

As vague as possible, are you US based? Metropolitan area?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8gkf7v wrote

Most of the shifts there were in greater Los Angeles but a few shown are Las Vegas.

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ARealBlueFalcon t1_j8gos03 wrote

That is more interesting and seems less surprising. I guess your last year average seems more in line with what I would think. $500 on average seems like what I would expect an attractive woman to make. I haven’t been to a strip club in a few years but it always seemed like the women were making a fortune. But I didn’t often go on a weekday so I missed the nights where there are no guys dropping $1,000.

Was the uptick in earnings in later years a result of the analysis?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8gtu25 wrote

Don't forget that we don't keep all of the money. And even if you see a guy dropping $1,000, that might be with one or two dancers and there are 30 more on the floor fighting for scraps. LA is not a huge strip club market either. Most of my earnings increase is from me building up a roster of regular customers and also just getting better at the job.

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cheesebrah t1_j8gaa64 wrote

Are you a stats major and strip to pay for college?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8geg0a wrote

Ha I finished all my schooling many years ago but I did take several semesters of Stats.

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Orikrin1998 t1_j8gekol wrote

Very interesting, thanks for sharing this!

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jiggiwatt t1_j8gjyov wrote

Is this a case of more people paying after midnight on Super Bowl Sunday? Like yeah it's Monday, but 2am.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8gkrw6 wrote

I didn't explain how I account for the dates. I wasn't splitting my money at midnight and doing it on a strict calendar basis. If I started a shift at 10pm on Sunday and went to 2am Monday morning that all counted towards a "Sunday" shift.

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ModXMaG t1_j8gkzr3 wrote

I haven’t gained much info besides the fact that you must of became a very good stripper since Super Bowl 51

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Pohara521 t1_j8gl0v1 wrote

I would assume this is sports betting related. Id be curious what state you are in - specifically for 2018. Would be interesting if your state had recently passed online betting prior to that SB. Id love to see what the breakdown looks like on the days of Kentucky derby, Pimlico and Belmont if horse betting is allowed in your state

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8gtxss wrote

Not sure if you saw my initial comment but I address a lot of your questions :)

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Pohara521 t1_j8gwym2 wrote

Thanks, just read it. And the previous post. On 1st glance, I'm unconvinced it is based on sports betting. Although, perhaps anticipation of supreme court striking down pro & amateur sports protection act in May '18 led to increasing sports gambling earlier that year. What was the color designation of the club you were working? Considering OTB is legal, I would be curious what your earning look like on the day of major races - local and national

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8gz36o wrote

The four Super Bowls shown were at LA club #1, #2, #2, #3. I think to make conclusions about specific betting days it would be better to have aggregate data about money spent at the club. A lot of my earnings were from regulars although I did have two big spends from one-time-only customers who might have been gambling winners. Thanks for reading!

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whitwhat t1_j8h1ptt wrote

Was there some other external factor (aside from SB) affecting 2017? Like weather, etc?

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elviskarl t1_j8h2xlv wrote

I am loving this data, really. A real social behavior study

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FuryVonThunderschmit t1_j8hn41l wrote

It appears you age like a fine wine. Also, these are Covid years. Surely that affected your industry.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8jz7gf wrote

Thank you! And check the dates, this is pre-pandemic. :)

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PixeiLad t1_j8lgp7a wrote

So after the over hyped ADstravaganza that is the Sleeper Bowl: There's a lot of backed up testosterone I'm betting.

I had a job one summer driving dancers to gigs.

I made friends with a lot of them and understand why they got to feeling the way they did some days..

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Astronius t1_j8vdy51 wrote

Philadelphia parties hard apparently

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AKA_BigTaco t1_j8ydxw3 wrote

What are you charging for the various services? Curious what this look like if you look at a unit price/net earnings model. Is there a product mix optimization play here?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8yhsp9 wrote

For the most part it's all tips and single lapdances, which have prices set by the clubs. Prior to 2018 I was able to set my own VIP prices but then my clubs standardized those too and I started leaning towards selling less VIPs to optimize.

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AKA_BigTaco t1_j8ypvlr wrote

Interesting. How much are the set rates? Seem counterintuitive that VIP would make you less money. I always thought the VIP is the upsell service.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8yqm7l wrote

VIPs might be better for the club but they charge high room fees to the dancers and/or keep a higher percentage of the total than single dances. When I used to set my own prices I made my VIPs expensive to make it worthwhile. I wrote a detailed comment about pricing on this post if you can find it.

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danger_zone123 t1_j8e96ql wrote

Curious why you haven't updated the data? Posting stuff that is 3 years old today?

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8e9kxn wrote

Shortly after the 2020 Super Bowl strip clubs shut down because of the pandemic. I haven't been back to dancing since then.

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jacobrossner t1_j8eekw9 wrote

I wonder what the numbers would have been with the Bengals/Rams Super Bowl being in Inglewood, especially with the Rams having won

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8f8ngm wrote

Thanks for the feedback! The second bar in each group is just a screenshot of the two teams with the final score. I figured people reading this would be interested in Super Bowls and would recognize those, but maybe not.

My thought with the colors was to use blue for the baselines and red if it was below baseline and green if above baseline.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8fpk4r wrote

Not sure I understand the question. $84 is how much I earned on that Super Bowl Sunday.

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Narrow_Soft_9225 t1_j8fpi71 wrote

Needs at least 6 more data observations to be a pragmatic lower bound sample. The chart is impressive though.

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Can_swing t1_j8f42fs wrote

Who cares!? Why is this interesting to people. It offers no insights into anything. I'm tired of seeing all these stripper earnings posts. What can I learn from this data? Nothing! It's just attention seeking behavior.

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nerdydancing OP t1_j8f8z07 wrote

Thanks for the attention! On another note, searching this subreddit turns up exactly two posts about stripper earnings that I can find, both authored by me. So a simple solution would be to block me and then you won't ever have to see my posts again. 👍

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RussMantooth t1_j8fkbhs wrote

This kind of data analysis doesn't seem very stripper like. Could we get some pics or a quick performance video to be sure

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JPAnalyst t1_j8e5a3g wrote

Not the sexiest dataviz I’ve seen, but it’s straight forward and easy to interpret. You’re being extremely hyperbolic by saying this is one of the “worst you’ve seen”.

What should OP do to improve on it?

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from_dust t1_j8e940w wrote

Constructive criticism generally contains actionable advice to improve something.

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JPAnalyst t1_j8eaod5 wrote

Usually the people aggressively trying to sound like the smartest person in the room, are...believe it or not, not very smart. They just want to be heard.

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from_dust t1_j8ebfgp wrote

Yes. And everyone deserves the opportunity to learn to be better. Even if they're just trying to be heard

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