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armbargain t1_j8maxca wrote

I’m sad to say I’ve never heard of any on this list, except Beyoncé

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CrabbyCubez t1_j8mbief wrote

yet when she loses a category, people get mad

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pj_1981 t1_j8mc2tk wrote

Alison Krauss. The Beyonce of country folk.

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westbywestbywest t1_j8mw0xd wrote

Grammy's are a joke. The pool of artists and albums they judge are about 0.01% of all music made each year. It's basically an award that Sony, Universal, and Warner give themselves for convincing the world for yet another year that their favourite "musicians" had anything to do with the music released in their name.

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westbywestbywest t1_j8n0pea wrote

Replying to heliosparrow (#1,817,462)

To some degree every band has a producer and sound engineer, but my honest belief is that if you look at the catalog of say Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars, etc, etc, that most of the songs were written and produced with no input at all from the people who eventually perform the music as their own.

Everyone knows this but we somehow can't talk about the fact that the "musicians" who are promoted in the mass media don't make their own music, they are given tracks and assigned songs based on brand fit.

And in case anyone things I am sounding like some conspiracy theorist, look up just Dr. Luke and Max Martin and see their discography, the two single handily made all pop music from 2000 to 2020.

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pandigroove t1_j8n3plt wrote

Looks at all the names that aren't Beyonce: Who?

Considers again that this is the Grammys: Who cares?

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corrodedandrusted t1_j8n4wo6 wrote

I need to crawl back under my rock. I have only heard one of her songs, which was a cover.

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greatdrams23 t1_j8n5x1z wrote

I love chick corea, but why so many?

I bet half of Chick corea fans don't even know he has won one, let alone 28.

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3chi t1_j8n6780 wrote

Chick Corea got that Church of Scientology vote behind him

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davidwave4 t1_j8nff26 wrote

Replying to greatdrams23 (#1,818,091)

He won a bunch for Jazz Solo and for Group Performance, so he racked up a bunch just by virtue of continuously working and being involved in stuff. Grammy Jazz voters are very safe, so as a known quantity he probably won a lot off name-recognition alone. Not discounting him at all, Chuck is an inspiration to me and one of the all-time greats. But yeah, if he were still around he’d probably dismiss most of his wins too.

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Marfall01 t1_j8ni5mp wrote

I've never heard about any of them except beyoncé but I can't tell you which songs she made.

Are they out of touch or I am? Guess it's just that I'm not american

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hdoublephoto t1_j8nk7wf wrote

Grammys are awards for making record companies money. Basically nothing to do with musical talent or innovation.

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EbMinor33 t1_j8o2od7 wrote

Replying to westbywestbywest (#1,817,680)

> "musicians" who are promoted in the mass media don't make their own music, they are given tracks and assigned songs based on brand fit.

This is generally true (although variably so from artist to artist). However, I get annoyed that people act like this is a bad thing. Are we mad at the New York Philharmonic because they don't compose the music they perform? Of course not. Now of course, there's a greater level of transparency there, but who cares? Who cares if Bruno Mars writes his own music? He performs it well, and I like it. All there is to it.

And that certainly doesn't make them not musicians, so I take umbridge with your quotes.

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stash0606 t1_j8o65dx wrote

all these awards are about as valid as high school popularity contests.

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Noahcarr t1_j8o77se wrote

lol I love that 1st place is a glorified dancer and 2nd place is a conductor/musician

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prodigalson2 t1_j8oakj5 wrote

I think it's a commentary on how barren Popular music has become that one person can collect 32 Grammys from one General style of music. Back in the day (yes, I'm gonna go there,) there was enough talent to go around that a broader section of musicians could receive a Grammy award. Today, you have the usual suspects who come up on stage year after year, voice cracking, tears welling, teeth as white as a doctors lab coat, claiming..."I can't believe it...oh wow!"

But some of us...aren't fooled.

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adirtybubble t1_j8obvxi wrote

Replying to westbywestbywest (#1,817,680)

Taylor swift is a writer on all of her songs. I’m not even a fan of hers but you are seriously exaggerating and picked bad examples of artists to chose. Saying they had no input at all is just insanely in accurate.

You are right about about Luke and Martin being extremely prolific pop writers who have worked with a ton of huge names .

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bigedthebad t1_j8pf4vp wrote

Goes to show the brains behind the Grammys.

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trail34 t1_j8phx2s wrote

Replying to greatdrams23 (#1,818,091)

78 studio albums

31 live albums

10 compilation albums

The secret to success in jazz is to just keep producing content. You’re bound to eventually have something stick, and then you get to play on everyone else’s albums too because your name means something.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_Corea_discography

Not to diminish Chick’s accomplishments though. He, and his contemporaries like Herbie Hancock, invented new forms of jazz fusion.

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Csherman92 t1_j8pp1r6 wrote

Replying to westbywestbywest (#1,817,680)

All of Taylor Swift's music, has all been written by her. Taylor Swift has written or cowritten every song she has ever won a grammy for. You don't have to like her, but do NOT put her in the same camp as people who don't write their own songs.

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JaboyMaceWindu t1_j8q00yu wrote

Look at their ages, you can’t tell me it’s not rigged

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Yung_Corneliois t1_j8q3nso wrote

So I’m not a music person at all really but is it bad only literally don’t know anyone on this list except Beyoncé?

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prodigalson2 t1_j8q6frs wrote

Replying to oh-propagandhi (#1,823,178)

I know, that's my point, the Grammy Committee (or whatever it's called) doesn't seem to know there are a lot of really good musicians out there other than the usual gang and especially more than just Beyoncé. The back-patting has grown exponentially since around 40 -30 years ago.

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No-Engineering-1449 t1_j8qddrs wrote

I have no idea who any of the people on there are, I only really know who beyonace is because people say her name. No clue what she or anyone on this list has done.

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SurphingWalrus t1_j8rhyo4 wrote

Look I agree most awards shows are bull crap..but honestly I feel really bad for all of you sad lonely fucks that want to give us a paragraph as to why you didn't like the Grammys or why you think it's this or that...to be honest no one really give a shit what a couple of hundred arrogant negative trolls have to say. Try lighting up and being even 5 percent more positive. Then share your opinion in the same positive tone. You'd be surprised at the people that listen..hell if you do good enough you might actually get laid for once in y'all's sorry life's...anyway yea. Grammys where totally underrated this year I expect way more....have a great day guy!

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Various-Most2367 t1_j8rk05f wrote

Why have I not heard of any of these people besides Allison Krause, Beyoncé, and Quincey Jones?

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spacemarine1800 t1_j8rmdil wrote

Who the fuck are these people? I've never heard of any of them other than Beyonce.

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Boot-Representative t1_j8tkv9j wrote

Brian Wilson alone should have a shelf full of them, much less The Beatles, XTC, Zappa, etc. It’s not merit. If it was, no one would have complained about “Two Against Nature”.

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heliosparrow t1_j8tr9dl wrote

Replying to Csherman92 (#1,825,267)

Fair enough, there are exceptions - I don't think the short comment was meant to imply "always and 100%.“ It's not every Grammy. An accomplished musician like Pat Metheny has been nominated 38 times. He's also won 10 Grammys in the jazz categories - these are rarely televised though! So, probably we could distinguish between the top, televised awards, and those lesser seen or known. It was brilliant to see Bonnie Raitt recently win for song of the year - which upset a lot of people.

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garry4321 t1_j8tvu0e wrote

I think I win for the lowest level of fucks to give.

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PlaygroundGZ t1_j8vrzhv wrote

Throughout the years, I think I’ve heard like 2 songs from beyonce and I don’t even remember the name of those songs

Oh, umbrella isn’t her songs

So just one song and I don’t know the name

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Duckboy_Flaccidpus t1_j8w7jox wrote

Whoa! She must be the best musician of the 20th and 21st century, I had not idea the talent she embodies!

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WestCoastGday t1_j8wnlyf wrote

Replying to greenpanda4210 (#1,839,509)

She writes 95% of all of her songs .. stop believing in the bullshit that she is another "pop artist". Absolute game changer in terms of style changes, records, complete albums, cultural influence and global appreciation.

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trav110 t1_j934qtd wrote

I've never heard of any of these people except Beyonce

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joinmeandwhat t1_j95ldwz wrote

What is a Grammy award for? Why is there both a pop artist and a conductor? Is Beyonce really that talented? Did Georg Solti write a lot of cool music?

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