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BelinCan t1_j8sso89 wrote

What's up with Bangladesh?

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ebonit15 t1_j8togiu wrote

Probably can't afford a regular army, so trains citizens, and arms them for a possible future war.

It is totally my guess, though.

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WilliamMorris420 t1_j8visc8 wrote

But 1 in 24 people is an active service, armed paramilitary?

I could understand it, if they were disaster workers. Dealing with the annual monsoon, typhoon season and the occasional earthquake. The only countries that they have to worry about is Burma (Myanmar) and to a lesser extent PRC as they don't share a border with PRC. Who would have to go through India and Bhutan to get to Bangladesh.

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ebonit15 t1_j8vpb9f wrote

They have India I guess. Again, I am just guessing.

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WilliamMorris420 t1_j8vppnp wrote

Since its independence battle with Pakistan. India and Bangladesh have, gotten on well. With India supporting them against Pakistan.

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ebonit15 t1_j8vpwb5 wrote

Then they have Pakistan!

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WilliamMorris420 t1_j8vqz7t wrote

Which is on the other side of India. It's a long old trek, about 920+ miles away. With no chance of Pakistan invading through India.

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AdminsAreLazyID10TS t1_j8vuaf3 wrote

Like that's ever stopped jingoism before

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WilliamMorris420 t1_j8vvd44 wrote

Pakistan can not invade through the top of India, especially just to invade Bangladesh. It's not a country like Belgium, that you invade as it's in the way of getting to a bigger country.

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konichiwa-minna_san t1_j9nhh9l wrote

Can't say exactly why for Bangladesh, but I can tell why it's so for India.

India's paramilitary forces (multiple forces collectively termed as Central Armed Police Forces or CAPF) have been kept at equally high numbers to the armed forces to prevent coups. This has been the policy ever since first government post- independence. The CAPF come under the Ministry of Home Affairs and the recruitment is done similar to police recruitment. The higher-ups come exclusively from the elite Indian Police Service, which is a bureaucratic institute with no relation to the Army. So the command structure of the Army and the CAPF are kept separate.

This in turn means, if some day the Army decides to organize a coup, the CAPF will be called into action to respond. In the past, the CAPF had been provided gear subpar to the Army. But in the last decade, CAPF has been getting nearly as good gear as the Army and have also been assigned to roles which were hitherto assigned to the Army. Now you can see them fighting insurgency in Kashmir, which until a decade ago was the Army's job mainly. This is not to say, India's goverment views its Army with suspicion and the Indian Army has been notoriously apolitical. Yet, prevention is better than cure.

Coming to Bangladesh, this is just a guess. But Bangladesh models many of its policies based on India's. The founding father of Bangladesh, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was assassinated along with his whole family in an attempted Army coup. His daughter alone survived as she was in India at that time. Rn, she is the country's Prime Minister. I'd guess, the Bangladeshi government doesn't want a repeat of that incident and decided to have a strong paramilitary force separate from the Army as a possible counterweight.

Now, as a contrast, neighboring Pakistan has had like a dozen coups ever since it's inception. The Army holds a huge sway over the government and politics there. That's perhaps something they got very wrong.

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Fatigue-Error t1_j8ulvns wrote

How is the US not on the list? Some PDs have more gear than small militaries. Then there’s all of the unofficial militias.

Edit: and add the full spectrum for local PD to county sherriff to state troopers. And then, there’s federal law enforcement with CBP, FBI, ATF, etc.

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alehanro t1_j8us9q0 wrote

I guess maybe the source considers the police a government agency and thus not “para”military? 🤷‍♂️ I guess we’d have to ask the source

Edit: So I was curious and checked the source. The US is dead last with 0 forces, which I reckon is their way of saying “we have no statistics” for the US

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StubbornAndCorrect t1_j8v9vjw wrote

I mean the US doesn't have paramilitaries. We have literally millions of people in the National Guard. I do agree that ATF FBI etc might count, but then you'd have to include China's massive internal security army, which is bigger than the PLA (and for which the CCP used the Falun Gong - as annoying as those fuckers and their Epoch Times shit is these days - as a complete scapegoat to justify building a millions-strong internal army).

we have militias, which are, uh...much different. I'm sure they would love to be paramilitaries, but they're not.

now cops on the other hand, I would say the distinction is they see themselves as paramilitaries and the military by and large does not see them that way. this may be changing as cops become more and more synonymous with one political party (hey, kind of like China!)

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Raymond911 t1_j8xtgbt wrote

We have lots of paramilitary contractors tho. Literally private companies that contract with the DoD to operate in theaters of war

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gingerbread_man123 t1_j8y9x9h wrote

Paramilitaries are organised in association with some consistent aim and objective. PMCs are more often groups of mercenaries for hire.

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riamuriamu t1_j8ux00m wrote

Thought Russia would be higher but I guess their numbers have gone down a bit lately.

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PEdatagathering t1_j8x2b9e wrote

Russian paramilitaries are mostly internal forces. They wouldn't be involved in any conflict with the exception of some of the Muslim units from the Caucus region, which were involved in fighting in Ukraine. The majority of Russian forces in Ukraine are either separatist forces from the eastern Ukraine or regular army units. Their recent militarization was calling up reservists and people that just finished conscription, so they also wouldn't be paramilitaries.

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TheSussyIronRevenant t1_j8wmw2m wrote

Why ? They only have few paramilitary groups and they are composed mostly by prisoners

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Annoymous_Redditor t1_j8vw1uu wrote

My finally my country Bangladesh is mentioned on a post

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Hashashin_ t1_j8vcelo wrote

India using all that paramilitary in Kashmir

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70-1is69 t1_j8vdgka wrote

80,000 at its peak.

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Hashashin_ t1_j8vdu9y wrote

That amount of paramilitary in a small valley

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70-1is69 t1_j8vemaf wrote

Including Jammu and Ladakh. Delhi alone has a police force of 80,000

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Hashashin_ t1_j8vfyeb wrote

First of all there is a huge difference between paramilitary and police.

Kashmir and its surrounding areas have a population of about 13 million at most. With very low population density. Delhi has a population of about 32 million with very high population density.

And paramilitary isn't the only force in Kashmir is it?

Paramilitary + Military + Police

This is copious amounts of force to maintain control of a small valley with a small population.

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70-1is69 t1_j8vhqbt wrote

Well thanks to Pakistan kashmir is not a normal place is it. You people should be more concerned about your own country which is run by your corrupt and defeated army. Karachi, your biggest city, needs paramilitary presence just to maintain some semblance of law and order.

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Hashashin_ t1_j8vvnkl wrote

I must say that was an admirable attempt at changing topics. Why am I not surprised?

I wonder, why Karachi a city with 25 million people, very high population density, poverty and crime rate requires less paramilitary than Kashmir?

Perhaps it's because the paramilitary in Karachi is used to maintain peace in a city with an inadequate amount of police force. While paramilitary in Kashmir is used by India to maintain territory.

I would know that because I live in Karachi. We support paramilitary being deployed in Karachi because they are better than police. I wonder if you can say the same for Kashmiris?

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70-1is69 t1_j8vx7uk wrote

>I wonder, why Karachi a city with 25 million people, very high population density, poverty and crime rate requires less paramilitary than Kashmir

Abey lodu, apne terrorist bhejna band kro, hata denge saare thulle, Pakistan ka national motto hona chahiye gaand me dum nahi hum kisi se Kam nhi. Must admit, kaafi Vele kisam ke aadmi ho

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DungeonMaster69_ t1_j8vld5v wrote

well you will need that much security when you have terror factory pakistan as your neighbour.

you guys should focus on your own internal security rathering than being obsessed with your neighbour.

213 pakistani soldiers killed in 2022 . lmao . instead of feeding your corrupt general, better fund your internal security.

i wonder how "bleed india through thousand cuts" is going.

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LumbridgePartyRoom t1_j8w2dss wrote

Because that small amount of people has a high amount of terrorists, so you would obviously need a lot more force to deal with them, and maintain peace.

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LSeww t1_j8ssthd wrote

Russia mobilized extra 250k just a few months ago.

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cancerballs69420 t1_j8svoyz wrote

Don’t think those fall into paramilitary category

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TA_faq43 t1_j8sx9a6 wrote

Wagner group?

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cancerballs69420 t1_j8sxmjy wrote

People are mobilized into the Russian army not into Wagner group.

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TA_faq43 t1_j8t6cnt wrote

I meant, isn’t Wagner group a paramilitary force?

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cancerballs69420 t1_j8t7khx wrote

Yeah Wagner is a paramilitary group but the 250k mobilized is not a part of Wagner was my whole point.

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bob-theknob t1_j8twfbp wrote

What’s Bangladesh’s paramilitary organisation? I assume India’s is RSS or am I mistaken?

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70-1is69 t1_j8ug97j wrote

>I assume India’s is RSS

No. CAPF (BSF, CRPF, ITBP, SSB, CISF) and Assam Rifles, SFF.

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Dalbus_Umbledore t1_j8us0jp wrote

>India’s is RSS

Lol

Tell me I'm brainwashed without telling me I'm brainwashed.

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