rewt127 t1_j8xc2j6 wrote on February 17, 2023 at 4:54 PM

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Lol?

The republican party is far closer to the current moderate position than the Democrat party.

What is the moderate position on issues today.

Unions. Sure, you should be able to unionize if you want, but also leave if they don't represent you. Who champions right to work? The Republicans.

Transgender. The moderate position is opposition to procedures on children without parental consent. But otherwise, "you do you mate". Which is slightly closer to the republican position than the Democrat one.

Ukrainian war. The moderate position is "I dont care about Ukraine, but it is the biggest issue facing our closest allies in Europe and so we should help." Which is in this case slightly closer to the Democrat position than the republican one.

Taxation. The average American likes lower taxes. The moderate position is tax breaks for lower and middle class earners. This is closer to the republican position and is pretty much right on populist conservatism. The Republicans want lower taxes for everyone, but often favor high income earners. The Democrat position is higher taxes for everyone but with a larger impact on higher income earners.

COVID. The moderate position is that you should do things like vaccination and mask wearing, but you should not be forced. Which again, fits closer to the republican position of "you should do this if you are at risk, but its not the place of the state to force it".

You seem to forget that US citizens are some of the most conservative people on average of all western nations.

420everytime t1_j8xdxwq wrote on February 17, 2023 at 5:06 PM

The last republican president literally separated minority children from their parents and put them in concentration camps. That’s as ultra conservative as you can get.

Also, helping out your friends when they get in trouble is the moderate position. It’s not like we’re giving them boatloads of cash. We are mostly just giving them old equipment from the vietnam war that we won’t use anymore.

It says a lot about you that you think abandoning your friends at a time of need is the moderate position

rewt127 t1_j8xev2f wrote on February 17, 2023 at 5:12 PM

This just shows how little you understand.

Child trafficking across the southern border was a serious issue. It's not some 1% of children crossing the border situation. It was significant. So they separated the children from the "parents" so they could ensure that the child wasn't being trafficked.

Once they confirmed the parents and child's identity they were reuinted.

Also they weren't put In "concentration camps". They were in holding facilities that held then for a week or 2 so they could get identification done, and then send them home.

These were the same holding facilities used during the Obama administration. Which if you know anything about deportation statistics you know that Obama and Trump weren't wildly different.

You drank the partisan kool-aide. Trump wasn't some special evil. He continued standard border policy, he just shined a brighter light on it.

420everytime t1_j8xg1a9 wrote on February 17, 2023 at 5:19 PM

That’s many lies.

Neither Obama nor Biden separated children from their parents. They both separated children from human traffickers but that’s completely different.

Also, some of the children kidnapped by the trump administration aren’t reunited with their parents.

rewt127 t1_j8xgy99 wrote on February 17, 2023 at 5:25 PM

"They both separated children from human traffickers but that is completely different". They didn't leave the kids with the traffickers and then do their investigation. They, just like Trump, do the separation immediately. Children and adults are processed separately. This is literally standard procedure and has been for decades.

"Also some of the children kidnapped by the...... reuinited with the parents" got any evidence that parents who can prove they are the legal guardians of a child were not reunited with the child? Because other than a potential few cases of allowing the child to stay in the US with family who got in legally (grand parents, cousins, etc). I dont think you can find any evidence of this. You might find some sob story, but never do they provide legal documents from the Government of Mexico or Nicoragua, etc to prove this. So the US cannot in good conscience return the child to potential traffickers.