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cepegma t1_j9ow4al wrote

the follow-up question is how make China, US, and EU change direction and reduce emissions. It's clear to me that we need to rethink the way we live currently

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elibryan OP t1_j9p4p3o wrote

This poster emphasizes past accountability and doesn't show recent progress, but the U.S. / E.U. actually have reduced per-capita CO2e emissions since 2000. We still have a lot to make up for, but some credit where it's due. So if we've "changed direction" (maybe, slightly?!) then the next questions might be... Are we moving fast enough? And if we have this "carbon debt", how do we pay it back to other countries/people that are most affected?

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ppardee t1_j9r57zo wrote

The US and EU have been reducing emissions over this time.

To get China and India to reduce emissions, you'd have to bring them up to the same levels of prosperity as the US and EU. Being environmentally friendly is a luxury that developing countries can't afford.

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capybara_from_hell t1_j9t26um wrote

It doesn't have to do with prosperity, it has to do with outsourcing manufacturing so one can greenwash their consumption pattern.

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