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Kabamadmin t1_jdvfhnj wrote

I always look for the U.K. on these charts and graphs because I forget about Brexit. I'm from the U.S...

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mrscript_lt OP t1_jdvgcfh wrote

Indeed, soon someone may ask, "Where are Slovakia, the Czech Republic,
or why are Norway and Iceland included if they're not part of the EU?"
Europe can be quite complicated. However, the answer to all these
questions is fairly straightforward: data availability. If a country
provides data to Eurostat, it becomes comparable with other states and
is included in the list. If a country doesn't provide this specific
statistic to Eurostat, it's left out.

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Away_Ad_5328 t1_jdvnraw wrote

I was going to ask, “Where’s Italy?” Thank you for answering preemptively.

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karmacarmelon t1_jdvjzrt wrote

Except this isn't just the EU so if Iceland, Norway, etc are on there then the UK should be too.

Edit: it seems the reason is data availability

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halibfrisk t1_jdxpp8t wrote

Iceland Norway Switzerland & Lichtenstein are members of EFTA - they are not EU members but are members of Schengen, the single market, and some stuff like Eurostat and Erasmus that the UK no longer participates in. Many brexiters claimed that efta membership “Norway status” would be the outcome of brexit…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Free_Trade_Association

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Character_Speed t1_jdvkytr wrote

I do that too but in this case, while the UK is not in the EU, it is still in Europe, the continent.

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halibfrisk t1_jdxp6vx wrote

““Fog in the Channel, continent cut off”

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poestavern t1_jdvcvwg wrote

If your car is old enough in Norway there are no license fees!

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EstebanOD21 t1_jdxqw7k wrote

License fees for what ?

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UrbanToiletPrawn t1_je24jdw wrote

I dont know the specifics for Norway, but in most place you have to pay to register a vehicle and have a license plate etc to operate it on public roads.

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kmbxyz t1_jdx2v30 wrote

Go Poland! Keeping cars alive

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scottjones608 t1_jdvkn90 wrote

Are Poles hanging onto old Communist-era cars for nostalgic purposes?

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inkms t1_jdvto4u wrote

I have been many times in poland and I don't remember seeing a single communist era car, communism ended over 30 years ago

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Eokokok t1_jdwazb4 wrote

No, most are sold west to collectors and garages for nie than they were with new...

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mrscript_lt OP t1_jdvbvax wrote

Data source: Eurostat.

Made using: MS Excel.

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anhiebananhie t1_jdvcdk2 wrote

While pretty to look at, I would try to alternate between warm and cool colors on the graph. It would help colorblind folks. Red and orange are quite similar, so it would be good to separate them.

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JoHeWe t1_jdwfuqr wrote

Very cool. Coincidentally, I had to use the same data recently to prove a news article falsely claimed my country had one of the oldest passenger car distributions...

But I did notice you left out some countries. Because their data was different than the standard?

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mrscript_lt OP t1_jdwguth wrote

Some were missing at all, some had somewhat different splits. I was too lazy to make adjustments so just excluded :)

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reduhl t1_jdweywi wrote

Based on this. It will take a long time after the EU stops selling fossil fuel vehicles to have them leave the road.

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PyrrhoTheSkeptic t1_jdwjeqj wrote

Yes. I am not in the EU, but people can drive cars for many years, especially if they take decent care of them. My previous car I kept for 21 years, and it was still reliable. I would probably still be driving it, but my wife wanted some nicer features and so I bought a new car. I plan on keeping it until after 2040, unless something happens to it, or it turns out to be less reliable than expected. Given my age, this may be the last car I ever buy.

My guess is, some gasoline cars will still be on the road 50 years after no new ones are made, unless a ban on them is enacted. Some people like antique cars and drive them occasionally. Probably, a ban on them is the only way that they will be completely eliminated from the road in the foreseeable future.

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Imaginary_Scene2493 t1_jdwsajk wrote

Or we reach a point, say 20 years from now, where gasoline distribution becomes so limited that it’s no longer economical to keep a gas powered car.

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PyrrhoTheSkeptic t1_jdwvc1o wrote

I don't think we are going to reach that point in 20 years from now. I think it will be much later on, unless government regulations require them to close down.

Right now, the EU is planning on allowing the selling of new gasoline cars up through 2034. Since it is 2023 now, if gasoline were no longer distributed 20 years from now (2043), there would be cars that are only 9 years old when gasoline would no longer be distributed in the EU. That would cause significant hardship for poorer people who cannot afford new cars.

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Notice, even in Luxembourg, which has the highest percentage of newer cars (according to the chart of the opening post), over 25% have cars over 9 years old (it is 25% who have cars over 10 years old, so it must be more than 25% for those having cars over 9 years old). All of the other countries have a higher percentage of older cars on the road.

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In the U.S., where I live, it is likely to be longer that gasoline will be widely distributed than will be the case in the EU, so I expect to not run into that issue with my current car.

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krichuvisz t1_jdy0wba wrote

At one point EV kits for used cars are going to become very cheap. Or carbon free gas alternatives.

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reduhl t1_je082su wrote

Ya I can see carbon neutral fuels coming on line. The airline industry needs this to function. I can see it carrying over to the automarket. In europe it will probably be truly carbon neutral or negative.

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MeMoses t1_jdy52mn wrote

Not as long as you might expect. Average lifespan of cars in Europe is 18 years. Sure there are outliers and cars might have a longer life in poorer countries but that is a good starting point. The fossil fuel ban on new cars is set to take effect in 2035. So even if a car is bought on 31.12.2034 it will likely fail by 2053. Just 10% (on average) of cars fall under this category. The other 90% will probaply fail well before that and be replaced with a vehicle that's not using fossil fuels.

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Romanitedomun t1_jdwjubt wrote

Italy is no more part of Europe? fine, you are working on it...!

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ArvinaDystopia t1_jdx4ov8 wrote

For graphs like this, it'd be good to compute an average and sort by that rather than by one of the values.

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R07734 t1_jdwkb7k wrote

2021 data,I wonder if it changes over time. Like if new car purchases are accelerating in countries with higher electric car availability and incentives, or of people are waiting the same amount of time before replacing

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mrscript_lt OP t1_jdwl1mr wrote

I almost certain 1-2 or 3 years have no substancial impact on these stats. Electric car make 2-3% in most these countries, Norway is exception with ~15% electric cars share. People and economies are slow to change.

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Scorpian42 t1_jdx9ade wrote

Misread this as age distribution in car passengers, and was very confused by the batching

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GuysImConfused t1_jdyiyrh wrote

The title says Europe. Which is a continent.

There are several countries missing from this list.

The title should instead read "select European countries"

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Old_Captain_9131 t1_jdyls4h wrote

Interesting. I would have thought that switzerland is much higher in this list.

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tacocandoit t1_je4630m wrote

What is this type of graph called?

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Savings-Leg-577 t1_jdzckyq wrote

Those Ladas in Eastern Europe have a different vibe

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LanchestersLaw t1_jdx8cyc wrote

So you’re telling me communism is better at making long lasting cars than long lasting states.

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