Submitted by mrscript_lt t3_123niq7 in dataisbeautiful
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anhiebananhie t1_jdvcdk2 wrote
While pretty to look at, I would try to alternate between warm and cool colors on the graph. It would help colorblind folks. Red and orange are quite similar, so it would be good to separate them.
poestavern t1_jdvcvwg wrote
If your car is old enough in Norway there are no license fees!
Kabamadmin t1_jdvfhnj wrote
I always look for the U.K. on these charts and graphs because I forget about Brexit. I'm from the U.S...
mrscript_lt OP t1_jdvgcfh wrote
Indeed, soon someone may ask, "Where are Slovakia, the Czech Republic,
or why are Norway and Iceland included if they're not part of the EU?"
Europe can be quite complicated. However, the answer to all these
questions is fairly straightforward: data availability. If a country
provides data to Eurostat, it becomes comparable with other states and
is included in the list. If a country doesn't provide this specific
statistic to Eurostat, it's left out.
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karmacarmelon t1_jdvjzrt wrote
Except this isn't just the EU so if Iceland, Norway, etc are on there then the UK should be too.
Edit: it seems the reason is data availability
scottjones608 t1_jdvkn90 wrote
Are Poles hanging onto old Communist-era cars for nostalgic purposes?
Character_Speed t1_jdvkytr wrote
I do that too but in this case, while the UK is not in the EU, it is still in Europe, the continent.
MealMorsels t1_jdvm792 wrote
If it works, why get rid of it
Conscious-Tie253 t1_jdvmjle wrote
Communism ended over 30 years ago there.
Away_Ad_5328 t1_jdvnraw wrote
I was going to ask, “Where’s Italy?” Thank you for answering preemptively.
inkms t1_jdvto4u wrote
I have been many times in poland and I don't remember seeing a single communist era car, communism ended over 30 years ago
Eokokok t1_jdwazb4 wrote
No, most are sold west to collectors and garages for nie than they were with new...
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reduhl t1_jdweywi wrote
Based on this. It will take a long time after the EU stops selling fossil fuel vehicles to have them leave the road.
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JoHeWe t1_jdwfuqr wrote
Very cool. Coincidentally, I had to use the same data recently to prove a news article falsely claimed my country had one of the oldest passenger car distributions...
But I did notice you left out some countries. Because their data was different than the standard?
mrscript_lt OP t1_jdwguth wrote
Some were missing at all, some had somewhat different splits. I was too lazy to make adjustments so just excluded :)
PyrrhoTheSkeptic t1_jdwjeqj wrote
Yes. I am not in the EU, but people can drive cars for many years, especially if they take decent care of them. My previous car I kept for 21 years, and it was still reliable. I would probably still be driving it, but my wife wanted some nicer features and so I bought a new car. I plan on keeping it until after 2040, unless something happens to it, or it turns out to be less reliable than expected. Given my age, this may be the last car I ever buy.
My guess is, some gasoline cars will still be on the road 50 years after no new ones are made, unless a ban on them is enacted. Some people like antique cars and drive them occasionally. Probably, a ban on them is the only way that they will be completely eliminated from the road in the foreseeable future.
Romanitedomun t1_jdwjubt wrote
Italy is no more part of Europe? fine, you are working on it...!
R07734 t1_jdwkb7k wrote
2021 data,I wonder if it changes over time. Like if new car purchases are accelerating in countries with higher electric car availability and incentives, or of people are waiting the same amount of time before replacing
mrscript_lt OP t1_jdwl1mr wrote
I almost certain 1-2 or 3 years have no substancial impact on these stats. Electric car make 2-3% in most these countries, Norway is exception with ~15% electric cars share. People and economies are slow to change.
Imaginary_Scene2493 t1_jdwsajk wrote
Or we reach a point, say 20 years from now, where gasoline distribution becomes so limited that it’s no longer economical to keep a gas powered car.
PyrrhoTheSkeptic t1_jdwvc1o wrote
I don't think we are going to reach that point in 20 years from now. I think it will be much later on, unless government regulations require them to close down.
Right now, the EU is planning on allowing the selling of new gasoline cars up through 2034. Since it is 2023 now, if gasoline were no longer distributed 20 years from now (2043), there would be cars that are only 9 years old when gasoline would no longer be distributed in the EU. That would cause significant hardship for poorer people who cannot afford new cars.
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Notice, even in Luxembourg, which has the highest percentage of newer cars (according to the chart of the opening post), over 25% have cars over 9 years old (it is 25% who have cars over 10 years old, so it must be more than 25% for those having cars over 9 years old). All of the other countries have a higher percentage of older cars on the road.
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In the U.S., where I live, it is likely to be longer that gasoline will be widely distributed than will be the case in the EU, so I expect to not run into that issue with my current car.
kmbxyz t1_jdx2v30 wrote
Go Poland! Keeping cars alive
ArvinaDystopia t1_jdx4ov8 wrote
For graphs like this, it'd be good to compute an average and sort by that rather than by one of the values.
LanchestersLaw t1_jdx8cyc wrote
So you’re telling me communism is better at making long lasting cars than long lasting states.
Error83_NoUserName t1_jdx98rd wrote
No, they just buy up al the old cars from western Europe
Scorpian42 t1_jdx9ade wrote
Misread this as age distribution in car passengers, and was very confused by the batching
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halibfrisk t1_jdxp6vx wrote
““Fog in the Channel, continent cut off”
halibfrisk t1_jdxpp8t wrote
Iceland Norway Switzerland & Lichtenstein are members of EFTA - they are not EU members but are members of Schengen, the single market, and some stuff like Eurostat and Erasmus that the UK no longer participates in. Many brexiters claimed that efta membership “Norway status” would be the outcome of brexit…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Free_Trade_Association
EstebanOD21 t1_jdxqw7k wrote
License fees for what ?
krichuvisz t1_jdy0wba wrote
At one point EV kits for used cars are going to become very cheap. Or carbon free gas alternatives.
MeMoses t1_jdy52mn wrote
Not as long as you might expect. Average lifespan of cars in Europe is 18 years. Sure there are outliers and cars might have a longer life in poorer countries but that is a good starting point. The fossil fuel ban on new cars is set to take effect in 2035. So even if a car is bought on 31.12.2034 it will likely fail by 2053. Just 10% (on average) of cars fall under this category. The other 90% will probaply fail well before that and be replaced with a vehicle that's not using fossil fuels.
GuysImConfused t1_jdyiyrh wrote
The title says Europe. Which is a continent.
There are several countries missing from this list.
The title should instead read "select European countries"
Old_Captain_9131 t1_jdyls4h wrote
Interesting. I would have thought that switzerland is much higher in this list.
Savings-Leg-577 t1_jdzckyq wrote
Those Ladas in Eastern Europe have a different vibe
nostrato t1_jdzz1at wrote
No, Poles just like classic cars
reduhl t1_je082su wrote
Ya I can see carbon neutral fuels coming on line. The airline industry needs this to function. I can see it carrying over to the automarket. In europe it will probably be truly carbon neutral or negative.
UrbanToiletPrawn t1_je24jdw wrote
I dont know the specifics for Norway, but in most place you have to pay to register a vehicle and have a license plate etc to operate it on public roads.
EstebanOD21 t1_je260n4 wrote
Oh okay I didn't know tnx
tacocandoit t1_je4630m wrote
What is this type of graph called?
mrscript_lt OP t1_jdvbvax wrote
Data source: Eurostat.
Made using: MS Excel.