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Avicennaete t1_jdtbijl wrote

Reply to comment by Ian_Rubbish in From millionaires to Muslims, small subgroups of the population seem much larger to many Americans by jrdjared

Blame it both on right and left.

LGBTQ+ representation in film and TV tends to over estimate their proportions and right wing media does the same to incite fear mongering.

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robrobrobro t1_jdtijp8 wrote

If this was true 1 in 100 people on TV and in movies would be trans. That is absolutely not the case.

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Level3Kobold t1_jdtjep9 wrote

Actually it would be half that - 1 in 200 people

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robrobrobro t1_jdtjyzo wrote

Even that. There’s zero change 1 in 200 people in media are trans. I’d be surprised if it was 1 in 1000.

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DrunkenOnzo t1_jdtlinq wrote

in 2021, it was 0 in... however many characters in in all movies released that year. Last year it was 2 in... however many characters were in all movies last year.

To be clear, not just main characters, not just important side characters, all characters.

https://www.glaad.org/sri/2021/overview

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robrobrobro t1_jdtn4cn wrote

Exactly. And somehow that would be too many for many who refuse to believe they deserve basic empathy.

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Avicennaete t1_jdtlllq wrote

Yeah the trans community are way under-represented but that doesn't hold true for gays for eg.

Almost 1 in 4-5 characters in TV shows I watched in the past few years have been gay. In some shows like Sex Education, half of the characters are queer.

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Hendursag t1_jduh3cz wrote

The important factor here that skews your perception is "in TV shows I watched."

That is very much not true across all TV shows.

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goliathfasa t1_jdua5wk wrote

When talking about representation, nobody cares about the background extras.

It’s about the min characters and recurring characters.

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mochafiend t1_jdtpwa4 wrote

I agree that LGBTQ+ and even racial minorities are perceptually over represented in media. I think folks in less urban areas see the media that takes place in more densely populated places and so they feel it’s all in their face. I don’t have data to prove out whether this is actually real, but I believe the perception is absolutely true and I do this media shaped that in a significant way. I’ve been downvoted for saying this before but I don’t think it’s controversial.

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cosmernaut420 t1_jdtm531 wrote

>queer representation in Hollywood is exactly the same as Fox News telling you the drag queens and trans folk are going to mind control and molest your children

You enlightened centrists never cease to amaze me.

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Avicennaete t1_jdtqhvb wrote

I said they're both the reason why Americans think queer population is larger than it actually is. Didn't say anything about whether good or bad they are.

I know being an extremist (far left or right) helps people feel a sense of community and belonging but I don't think it's worth of a trade off it to shut off your brain and live in an eco chamber all your life attacking whoever doesn't fully agree with you.

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cosmernaut420 t1_jdtrckg wrote

>I said they're both the reason why Americans think queer population is larger than it actually is. Didn't say anything about whether good or bad they are.

I think that was my whole point. Implying these behaviors are "the same" is shortsighted bordering on deceptive. Obviously in a vacuum, if every ensemble television or movie cast tics every representational diversity box, you're not going to have anything resembling a literal representational cross-section of broader society. I doubt seriously it causes as much overestimation as a 24 hour news cycle that hypes the same aspects of representational diversity as inimical to and actively conquering broader society.

All that aside the fact that one of these groups is regularly doing stochastic terrorism on live television, and it's not actually the kids from Euphoria.

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invertedshamrock t1_jdtfzt9 wrote

It absolutely does not. Straight people are everywhere in every single piece of media including those that would be labeled as LGBT media. In most such LGBT media queer people are still numerical minorities in the stories that are principally about them. Queer representation in media is still vanishing slim compared to the actual proportions of our society

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MaxYeti88 t1_jdufsr2 wrote

I would disagree. I think “under representation” have gone the way of the “gender wage gap” - true at some point, but nothing but a convenient myth in the present.

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