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NarcissusLovesEcho t1_iqriy52 wrote

Reply to comment by Mister_Way in [OC] Top 10 Richest Russian Oligarchs in 2022 and their links to Putin by Spirited-Focus-7312

What American billionaires would you argue are part of Putin's inner circle and made they're fortunes by taking private ownership of former Soviet industries?

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SilkyChalk t1_iqrvhuc wrote

They're just saying that the word 'link' is very vague and the graphic should probably clarify.

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NarcissusLovesEcho t1_iqsdj2c wrote

They did that with the first sentence. My question pertained to the second sentence. I was just wondering what American billionaires would possibly fall under the definition of a Russian oligarch. Maybe there are some, but that would be news to me. I'm just not aware of any Americans who made their fortunes by privatizing former Soviet state owned industries.

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st4n13l t1_iqta58v wrote

>I was just wondering what American billionaires would possibly fall under the definition of a Russian oligarch.

They didn't say American billionaires would fall under the definition of Russian oligarch. They said American oligarchs with ties to Put in.

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NarcissusLovesEcho t1_iqth45z wrote

No, they said exactly that. And then they tried to argue that they were right to say that. It was dumb and I'm sad that I wasted a tiny part of my weekend on it.

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ElderWandOwner t1_iquczmk wrote

It wasn't even the same person that replied. It's pretty obvious he was asking about what it would look like if it was americans instead of russians.

Protip, in the future when you don't understand something don't get so defensive. It's a bad look.

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Me_Melissa t1_iqvcdkc wrote

The second sentence was just an extension of the first, explaining its motivation. You could read the second sentence as, "I'm curious how Link is defined, and whether it's defined broadly enough to include Americans."

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Mister_Way t1_iqslrhd wrote

Maybe the whole lot of the Russians are just a branch of a larger circle of global oligarchs. Links can go either direction, and Putin didn't take over the former Soviet Union without at least some tacit support from the West.

There isn't a billionaire alive who isn't part of the billionaire club...

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NarcissusLovesEcho t1_iqsnk2d wrote

The Russian oligarchy has a very specific history and centralized power structure. And Putin's rise to power was very much an inside deal with Yeltsin and other former Soviet power brokers. They didn't need any help from the west.

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Mister_Way t1_iqsud8y wrote

They needed not to be assassinated, for one thing. But, you tell yourself whatever you want. No way is the US in any way accountable for Putin. No possible way.

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NarcissusLovesEcho t1_iqt0wvu wrote

The US is about as accountant for Putin as the enneagram is a valid model of personality.

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Mister_Way t1_iqt6s6e wrote

As you say

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RippinLipsInSC t1_iqv0ne9 wrote

Touch grass man. You’re not coming off as enlightened, smart, or having the ability to see through the veil. You just sound dumb, ignoring history and facts in favor of conspiracy.

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