Global Agricultural Land Use v. Agricultural Production [OC]Submitted by rosetechnology t3_xvgmuw in dataisbeautiful
Mendicant__ t1_ir3hmlk wrote
Crop yields really are going up, promise
People are so hellbent on this being untrue, and I don't get it. Your other problems will still be there for you even if this one is better than you thought.
Sininenn t1_ir3v7tb wrote
It's not that people are hellbent on this being untrue
It's that the metric chosen here is not the best way to describe efficiency, or the volume of crops grown and harvested, unlike the data you linked.
Mendicant__ t1_ir541ly wrote
People are definitely claiming it's just price increases/cash value and that production hasn't actually gone up.
Sininenn t1_ir54mt2 wrote
Some people, myself included, are claiming that this data representation could also be explained using just that justification, and that therefore, it's not a good one.
Hipser t1_ir4joik wrote
the real burning issue is using most of that land for animal feed. it takes vast amounts of water and uses up 100x the weight of crops per final meat food. we collectively have to eat far less animal.
monosodiumg64 t1_ir50762 wrote
>the real burning issue is using most of that land for animal feed. it takes vast amounts of water and uses up 100x the weight of crops per final meat food..
Not sure any of those points are correct.
On the water point, most sources that claim animal feed takes up huge amounts of water are including rainwater, which is not "used" in the sense of "was available for other uses but no longer is because it was used up in growing crops". In fact almost all that rainwater runs off or evaporates, which it would have done whatever that land was use for.
>100x
Source? I ask because the range I usually see is 4x to 10x.
Hipser t1_ir7t6oa wrote
Twenty-six percent of the Planet's ice-free land is used for livestock grazing and 33 percent of croplands are used for livestock feed production
https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/news/why-meat-is-bad-for-the-environment/
monosodiumg64 t1_ir95bb6 wrote
That's Greenpeace. Was a fan in the anti-whaling days but they were real environmentalists in those days. Now they are a propaganda org pushing ideological positions instead of the environment. They lie and distort freely to support their causes. Not a credible source in anything.
Tip: look not just for sources aligned with your beliefs, look also for sources with different biases.
Hipser t1_ir9mfad wrote
there are billions of environmentalists living under capitalism.
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