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MickIAC t1_ircgbab wrote

The thing that interests me the most is how much of a motivator the hour mark is as a target.

And funnily enough, with better pacing experience how much quicker fun runners could go than "sub 4", "sub 3" etc if there was finer understanding of how quick they're capable of going. You see it start to stabilise around 2.45 because anyone under that is doing very specific training and usually has a great amount of experience pacing.

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immunedata t1_ircuf03 wrote

Conversely there are probably runners whose fitness and training might put them on a 3:05ish time but running in a pace group brings them a mental boost to get them down to 3:00 that they couldn’t run on their own.

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MickIAC t1_ircyod3 wrote

I get what you're saying, but surely that shows they're capable of the 3 hours and should factor into it.

Like if I do the local parkrun I might dip under 16 mins on a good day. Low 15 when it's a high quality 5k that's basically not a solo run. But I'm always aware that those fast races are where the true pace will show.

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