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kir_ye t1_is58ywr wrote

As far as I'm concerned there is no concept of “sexual consent” in Muslim countries with Shariah law. It's about marriageable age cause sexual activity outside of marriage is prohibited and criminalized

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e_schimdt t1_is5c76t wrote

Just last March of this year, a law has been signed raising the legal age of consent in the Philippines from 12 to 16

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Infernalism t1_is5evuh wrote

Nigeria, get your shit together, wtf.

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Malikor42 t1_is5fcm0 wrote

So in Europe you can only have intercourse in the morning?

Why the decimal points OP?

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857477459 t1_is5ijc8 wrote

This is showing the US as 16. That's true in the majority of states, but many others are 18 and a few are 17. It doesn't feel accurate to just paint the whole US as 16.

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857477459 t1_is5ipsm wrote

Replying to kir_ye (#92,908)

There's also the fact that the legal consequences are backwards. In these other countries the older person goes to jail. In Sharia law countries the underage girl is the one getting ounished, not the older man.

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cordilleragod t1_is5mrui wrote

The Legal Age of Consent in the Philippines is now 16, one year higher than France.

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PoddleMeister t1_is5r9up wrote

The boxplot underneath is a nice touch -- but only if you know what it is (and having it horizontal makes it look like a timeline. Putting it on the right, vertically, would make it clearer. You've also used red dots which is confusing as you also use red in the scale.

On the scale, individual years of age matter -- and I'm left counting blocks, which is awkward. Better to use buckets as most of the colors are clumped (<=13, 14&15, 16 & 17, 18 to 21, say). Fewer colors would make it easier to read the legend and see the spread. The white also makes it look like you don't have data rather than it being the color between red and blue.

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mublacksmith t1_is6a4wa wrote

Replying to Avedisride (#94,885)

but how can they have different laws or punishments when all of those countries you listed are following the same "sharia law" you say. Also, can you refer me to a book that is called sharia law? and can you explain what the other muslim-majority countries you didn't list follow as a law?

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Avedisride t1_is6d21x wrote

Replying to mublacksmith (#94,930)

Countries that use specific penalties corresponding to crimes outlined in the Quran and in Hadith are in this context considered a "Sharia law country". This isn't some set in stone rule to follow, I'm just explaining to you what the commenter you questioned was referring to.

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mublacksmith t1_is6hck1 wrote

Replying to Avedisride (#95,071)

That's not true though, if all of those countries followed the rulings in the Quran, wouldn't they have the same law? you keep avoiding this question. All of those countries follow man made laws, even if they sugar coat them. Otherwise every country would have the same law, which is not real since if you look at the OP's post, as an example, none of those countries have the "same" age for consent or marriage, i.e. they don't follow the same law because there's no such thing as sharia law, it's all man made.

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Avedisride t1_is6irci wrote

Replying to mublacksmith (#95,285)

If any of your laws have a crime that's corresponding punishment's are outline in the Quran or in Hadith such as stoning or beheading, in this context your considered a country that still practices Sharia law and/or a "Sharia law country". Your argument is that because every law followed in these countries isn't only based on this that it doesn't exist. The term here is being used colloquially, doctrine isn't used to outline every law in their countries but it is used to dole out particular cruel punishments for breaking certain laws.

Edit. "Particular, cruel"

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Currently_There t1_is7sdsu wrote

I was actually surprised at the extent of how conservative some of these countries still are. I would love to see a comparison time lapse with the different centuries or see the rate these statistics change.

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exculcator t1_is8fj3a wrote

Need to define consent here.

For example, this graphic seems to imply the age of consent in Japan is 13. While that is the age in certain specific situations, it is normally 18, which would make Japan blue, not red.

Likewise in New Zealand, the normal age of consent is 16, but a person under 16 may consent in some circumstances; contrarily, in some circumstances, the age is 18, not 16.

There is no single age of consent in these two countries (the two I am most familiar with), and I would wager this is the case for most countries.

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Desperate-Ant-2341 t1_is8sojh wrote

Replying to kir_ye (#92,908)

In fact, all Sahih (authentic) Hadiths (religious texts) say that prophet Mohammad married one of his wives (Aisha) when she was 6 and had sex with her when she was 9. She was still playing with dolls at the time so….. we can connect the dots.

So yeah, Sharia doesn’t care about consent.

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martiandeath t1_is9r1la wrote

if white is 16, which if i count it is, then australia is wrong because its 17

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uniqueusername14175 t1_isgagup wrote

Replying to mublacksmith (#111,493)

The bible is written in Aramaic, greek and Hebrew. Any book not in those languages is just a translation of the bible. Translations are not exact, they’re open to interpretation. An example would be idioms. Raining cats and dogs is a common idiom in english but doesn’t translate to other languages with the same meaning. Someone unfamiliar with the idiom could read it to mean animals falling out of the sky, whereas someone familiar with it would read it to mean heavy rain, as intended.

Each church has its own translation of the bible based on someones interpretation of the meaning of the scripts in their original language. The Quran is almost always read in Arabic. That’s why it’s easier for you to see why different groups of christians exist. They’ve codified their interpretations of the bible into a translated book they still call the bible, except it now agrees with their world views.

Muslim countries do the same thing when they make up shariah based laws, except they don’t bother rewriting the Quran every time someone reinterprets the meaning of a part of it. They just say ‘this is what the Quran means by this so this is what the law is’.

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Any-Replacement9889 t1_isnu2dk wrote

Replying to Desperate-Ant-2341 (#99,455)

That is an incorrect hadith, there are many weak sources about aishas real age at the time of marriage. Also there where muslims in history who tried to turn prophet muhammad into this salacious person that thinks of sexual pleasuring all the time so they get their allowance for their wrongdoings. Sharia law is just trying to apply the rules of god for muslims in a muslim society and that's about it. In the actual authentic Islamic history, Aisha is 10 years younger than her older sister Asma, her sister was 29 at the time of her marriage which means that Aisha was 19 at the time. Before that she was only promised to the prophet. In islam you can not become a muslim unless you are relatively mature which is like the age 9 in islam, Aisha was 7 when she came to islam and was betrothed for marriage at the age of 17, 10 years after the time when she became a muslim, she married the prophet at the age of 19, two years after she was betrothed to get married to prophet muhammad.

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