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thebestoflimes t1_is765z3 wrote

Reply to comment by pk10534 in Police Killings per Capita v Homicide Rate per Capita for Select OECD Countries [OC] by dr5c

Poor communities within countries will generally have much higher rates of violent crime and the same holds true for countries as well. The USA is consistently a heavy outlier when compared to other very wealthy countries in terms of healthcare, imprisonment, violent crime, etc.

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Siglet84 t1_is776sp wrote

The USA is like a giant Germany with a bunch of brazils tucked inside of it. If you’re reasonably wealthy, you aren’t really affected by crime of criminals cops. If you’re poor, crime and criminal cops are a daily part of life.

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-Ch4s3- t1_is86xlq wrote

That’s the case in Brazil as well. Wealthy Brazilians are constantly in NYC and Miami, speak perfect English, send their children to boarding school, and vacation in Europe.

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Duncan-McCawkiner t1_is8ie6c wrote

I wouldn’t even say reasonably wealthy. I’d say just not completely impoverished. You can be relatively poor and live in very safe rural/suburban communities in the US. It’s people living in areas of high poverty where you’re dealing with violent crime and police corruption daily. Although I’d argue there’s a fair share of police corruption in the US even within the safe wealthy communities just low risk of being shot by them for no reason and even then that still only really applies if you’re white.

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RajaSonu t1_is95gqy wrote

Police being placed in school and changing school policies means that wealthier Americans are beginning to have more interactions with cops then before. Now students are getting arrested for behavior that previously got them suspended.

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pk10534 t1_is7auwq wrote

I don’t dispute any of that, my point was solely that it doesn’t make any more sense to compare the US to Lichtenstein or Denmark than it does to compare the US to Brazil. Wealth shouldn’t be the only factor we look at.

For instance: Mexico is a high income economy who also broke away from a European power and is a democratic, free market nation. Mexico’s GNI is actually closer to Spain’s than Spain’s is to the US. If it’s fair game to compare spain to the US (which has a GNI $40,000 dollars higher than spain), why is it not for Mexico?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GNI_(nominal)_per_capita

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RambunctiousRabbi t1_isaq9x2 wrote

Youre wayyyy too smart yo be arguing this on Reddit.

But you’re 100% correct in my eyes

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100dylan99 t1_is7dv1r wrote

> The USA is consistently a heavy outlier when compared to other very wealthy countries in terms of healthcare, imprisonment, violent crime, etc.

That's because other "developed countries" are Europe, Arabia, and a few places in Asia.

The Americas are more violent than just about everywhere in Eurasia, hell, even Africa when you adjust for GDP (outside of South Africa, which is in many ways more like LatAm than the rest of Africa anyway. The US has a very minor version of the problem Brazil has. It is not doing very poorly at the job that France is doing.

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