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-Ch4s3- t1_is8u95v wrote

Reply to comment by JosephusMillerTime in Police Killings per Capita v Homicide Rate per Capita for Select OECD Countries [OC] by dr5c

What are your arguing against here? I'm making the point that the US is historically more like Mexico, the Bolivarian states, and Brazil than say... Denmark.

That the US has risen to become the global hegemon doesn't make it any more like any of the OECD nations except maybe some weird reflection of the UK of a century ago. That the US is far more free, less violent, and wealthier than other post-colonial nations with diverse populations is interesting and unusual.

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JosephusMillerTime t1_is8uqyw wrote

It seems like people in the US get really offended when it is pointed out their country really should be doing better on a bunch of metrics

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Fun_Designer7898 t1_isadu7i wrote

Not from the US here, i'll use Germany as a example

I think that should also apply to how other countries lack behind in a lot of other things as well

Germany (most of europe actually) is losing share of total net wealth and gdp while the US is steadily increasing and even rising faster than china in terms of wealth last year

The US overtook germanies car industry with Tesla or at least heavily decreased germanies share

Germany has very good social systems (so far) and good living conditions but that doesn't make up for the fact that energy costs close to 10 as much as in the US

Germanies military is not even in the top 15 of the world, which isn't acceptable given it's size

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-Ch4s3- t1_is8vt7h wrote

If you say so. But it’s not like France for example is doing particularly well. France had again for example 20% youth unemployment vs 8% in the US. Then US is far more open to immigration. Americans have broader rights in most respects.

There are a lot of ways to slice and dice national data depending on what you’re trying to claim. But, European states are old, homogeneous by comparison, have recently had to rebuild from war, and are on paths of decreasing global importance. They just don’t compare, except on GDP per capita.

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JosephusMillerTime t1_is8wf2g wrote

Australia, Canada and New Zealand are your post colonial peers.

My point is these are the countries who the US claims as closest allies and peers on one hand. Then on the other we get people like you saying how well you do in humanitarian metrics compared to Brazil and India.

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-Ch4s3- t1_is90ctr wrote

There are like 5 people in Australia and New Zealand and they were mostly settled after American independence so they didn’t go through a revolutionary period. The revolutionary period is the distinguishing historical factor IMO. Canada is special because it was principally French and Catholic prior to America’s revolution and was then flooded with exiled royalists/loyalists. As with Australia and New Zealand it is still part of the commonwealth.

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