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dr_leo_marvin t1_isbptbl wrote

Reply to comment by amatulic in [OC] Google IPO vs Now - breaking down revenue and profit sources by giteam

Yeah majorly down! From 70% to 16%. How is that possible? Good lawyers and knowledge of tax loopholes or policy changes?

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Street-Individual292 t1_isdlb4x wrote

IPO years in general will be misleading because stock compensation isn’t tax deductible until it’s vested, which temporarily spikes effective tax rates. It doesn’t mean they’re actually paying that much, it’s just the way it’s recorded on financial statements

For reference, their tax rate was 36% in 2004

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Koopslovestogame t1_iscen3o wrote

Is the double Irish still a thing?

Edit: just checked myself and they said they’d stop doing it Jan 1 2020.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jan/01/google-says-it-will-no-longer-use-double-irish-dutch-sandwich-tax-loophole

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dr_leo_marvin t1_isdc942 wrote

Wut is that?

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amatulic t1_isdegr9 wrote

It's a tax loophole. It's closed now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement

But companies moved on to other loopholes that are as good or better.

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Street-Individual292 t1_isdlf5n wrote

>But companies moved on to other loopholes that are as good or better

I’d disagree with this. The whole point of changing our international tax laws back in 2018 was to establish a global minimum tax for US companies

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onetwofive-threesir t1_isdwasl wrote

No it wasn't. The tax laws were changed to give companies "incentives" to return capital/jobs to the US (which we know they never do in the long term).

The tax law reduced our corporate taxes to their lowest levels in recent history. They also lowered the average person's taxes, but only temporarily (they will be rising over the next 5-6 years). And then they created new schemes, such as the business owner pass thrus. And I think they lowered the capital gains tax (don't quote me on that one).

The only somewhat positive thing they implemented was a one-time tax on corporate earnings overseas. This was used to help pay for some of the tax breaks they gave companies, but also offset the total cost of the bill. This encouraged the companies to repatriate their overseas earnings since they were going to be taxed anyways. Thought was, if they bring the money home, they'll invest in the US economy - except they said they wouldn't and then they didn't - they gave their shareholders dividend increases and stock buybacks...

Global minimum taxes were never on the table in 2017. That is a recent phenomenon...

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Street-Individual292 t1_isep6p3 wrote

Pretty much everything that you said is true, but your last two sentences are wrong. The TCJA established two different minimum taxes on global income for corps. One is called GILTI and the other is called BEAT. GILTI is the framework for the global deal that countries are attempting to implement now, but the US has had this in place for 5 years now

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beemccouch t1_iscjy3k wrote

And politicians voting to reduce taxes on corporations

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