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Turtley13 t1_itqo194 wrote

Have to think about it in terms of Main cause and secondary.

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vlsdo t1_itqrj7o wrote

But when a cam pulls out it's also because of a fall. Why does that get its own category?

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Turtley13 t1_itqvs9k wrote

Not necessarily. You can be 'taking' on a piece or using it as an anchor.

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