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jeromedavis t1_iud7op7 wrote

I don’t think this graphic tells you much about employability.

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False_Creek t1_iudfaak wrote

Agreed. All it tells me is that Malay speakers are more likely than English speakers to be stay-at-home moms.

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ptrknvk t1_iudi97u wrote

Or that they're old or young.

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Turtle_Rain t1_iudpqpp wrote

Meaning they are locals while English only speakers come to Singapore to work.

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685327593 t1_iudv4hp wrote

Not to mention the fact most people there are bilingual.

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ASpellingAirror t1_iudb503 wrote

This data isn’t particularly beautiful in its presentation, or useful.

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ArtistEngineer t1_iudg5h6 wrote

Phew! So it's not just me.

I stared at these charts for a while, but I can't really make out what it's supposed to tell me.

is the answer "Other Languages" since it has largest employed population?

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SportySaturn t1_iudii9u wrote

I think the "answer" we take away here is that Singaporeans are multilingual, and the employment stuff is a red herring.

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FailOsprey t1_iudk8os wrote

...I feel as though this chart is telling me that Hanni Gong is one of these unemployed workers.

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gauchocartero t1_iue6jrf wrote

‘There is no significant difference in employability between these languages’

Thank you for such useful information…

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MrMitchWeaver t1_iuebvhx wrote

Should be ordered by some metric and should tell you the unemployment percent explicitly.

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Disconn3cted t1_iud3nmm wrote

So "Other Languages" are more employable than English and Mandarin?

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aghicantthinkofaname t1_iudaz9d wrote

Well I'm guessing those are probably foreign specialists for companies that do business all over the world. How many native Singaporeans speak fluent Italian?

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UncleSnowstorm t1_iudntjp wrote

I think it's more likely that anyone who lives in Singapore and speaks a language other than the 4 listed here, then they will certainly ALSO speak at least one of these 4 languages.

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notacanuckskibum t1_iudqkz3 wrote

If your first language isn't English/Mandarin/Malay/something Indian, why are you living in Singapore? Probably because you were invited there to do a specific job.

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brewbase t1_iud8v49 wrote

The most relevant number is the unemployment rate, which we don't get explicitly.

I get that you can work it out and it doesn't change much, but it should be immediately clear at first glance.

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borg_legion t1_iudatkx wrote

Is this supposed to be "Chinese (Including Dialects)" instead of "Mandarin (including dialects)"?

Mandarin is a dialect, I guess there are sub-dialects of Mandarin but afaik they'd be mutually intelligible.

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jrystrawman t1_iud266m wrote

I like the breakdown as I think the tradional unemployment rate doesn't factor large components out [<outside the labour force]. But I'm,d also still like to see the "tradional unemployment rate" alongside these metrics.

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Techygal9 t1_iudh4bd wrote

This would be more useful if it showed English only or mandarin only (and etc). Many people speak multiple languages so knowing how employable one language is would have to control for just that one language.

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Visual_Poem_7288 t1_iud10b4 wrote

Why the Malay unemployment so low bru 💀💀

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Irishknife t1_iud1jbw wrote

the unemployment rate in the US is like 4%. according to the statistics, they have a 4-5% unemployment rate. not that weird.

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Visual_Poem_7288 t1_iud1ow9 wrote

But to be fair the Malays have the lowest inside labour force sooo 💀💀💀

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Beavshak t1_iud2cj5 wrote

They probably have a higher birth rate.

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UncleSnowstorm t1_iudo65v wrote

More traditional gender roles than other cultures (i.e. more housewives/SAHMs), also close vicinity to Malaysia so might have people commuting to Malaysia to work (so wouldn't count among the SG labour force).

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El_Minadero t1_iudbo1q wrote

This is not a great visualization. Try a spider plot and normalize values to a standard.

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steve-win-wood t1_iudc2n5 wrote

The nation of other at it again!!! They seem to top most graphs these days.

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burnshimself t1_iude5i3 wrote

This must have been made by someone completely oblivious to the concept of correlation vs causation or multiple regression analysis.

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fizzymynizzy t1_iudiwhh wrote

"Mandarin including other dialects" just say Chinese.

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european_hodler t1_iudsi45 wrote

This makes not much sense.

English and Secondary Language proficiency usually correlates with overall wealth and education level. Therefore, this is just a correlation but likely no causation.

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Mehek108 t1_iudvnl1 wrote

What are the Indian languages considered here?

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CeruleanDragon1 t1_iudwo3c wrote

So Mandarin has a lower rate of unemployment, but English has a higher percentage of employed people.

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tripodal t1_iue3svr wrote

You need to denote multi language speakers; as most non English speakers are multilingual

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lfrostbytee t1_iuha1aj wrote

The data might be more convenient if you indicated the percentage for the unemployed as well. The title is misleading as it implies that employability is directly related to one's spoken language. Being currently employed is different from one's employability because one could be currently employed, but could have also failed multiple job applications. Such a scenario would demonstrate how one can be employed but also does not have high employability.

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Aomentec t1_iuhjlw5 wrote

So if someone speaks three languages, does he show up in all three? I strongly doubt that only 5% of English Speakers (and so on) are employed.

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Wowsers_an_idiot23 t1_iud68kz wrote

1)are the numbers reflective of total population? eg 66% of eng could be 500 ppl but 63% of chinese could be 200 ppl 2)when you say not actively seeking work do you mean stay-at-home adults such as housewives or retired? 3)who were the ones who did the census? govt or independent organisations? cos idr trust the other races in sg, they could have rigged the numbers to flex on us esp those ppl who dl malays

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brewbase t1_iud8sy4 wrote

1)obviously reflective of the number who speak the language, not total national population as the numbers add up to 100% (or near it)

2)this statistic usually means anyone not working or looking for work. Sometimes includes students, usually includes housewives, retired, and those too disabled to work.

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hannigong4dmi OP t1_iud9cd7 wrote

the two points above are right! for 3), the census was done by the Singaporean government!

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