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Healthy-Quarter-5903 t1_itlhbpe wrote

Interesting!

Crazy to see "Faith" as one of the most important topic in the US...

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Artchantress t1_itlpjkq wrote

I was surprised to find that material well being/occupation is not in top 2 for US. The stories about the office culture over there are insane, and a lot of people seem to be proud about working over 40 hours a week.

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spartikle t1_itmxshk wrote

Key word: “stories.” The average American worker works just under 39 hours a week.

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gone_internal t1_itpg18q wrote

There is some truth to it. I'm thinking those stories come from salaried office jobs. Most lawyers, doctors, auditors, military, and other professionals I work with can easily put in 70 hours a week. And as far as those weekly hour averages are calculated, I wonder how they include people with 2 or more jobs. Also, I suspect that we don't have a great leave system here compared to other developed countries.

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pgnshgn t1_itmzfec wrote

US office culture is more of a free for all than a lot of places, for good and bad. You don't have unions telling the Type As and workaholics to back off and stop working so much, so they're free to do so, and earn that sweet sweet overtime. The flip-side is when one of those types ends up in charge, there's not a lot to stop them from putting those expectations onto the people below them either. Which you end up with can vary by industry, company, and even division within a company.

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CocoMelodia t1_itp2fua wrote

I think this chart can also reflect what people are lacking in each country. The US is very individualistic and people actually crave more connection. The responders probably didn’t think of material well-being as having as much purpose because they already have it.

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YellowSub70 t1_itpcis1 wrote

Yup. U.S. is definitely missing Health and Society. Instead -we have Faith. Thoughts and prayers everyone!!

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tuan_kaki t1_itpq8v3 wrote

Yo hear me out. What if we start exporting thoughts and prayers in exchange for materials again? It’ll be the greatest trade deal, the heathens get high quality ‘murican thoughts and prayers and we get critical resources like oil and fancy minerals!

Man they should make me the secretary of commerce

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Sketzell t1_itozm5k wrote

Occupation is not something that gives your life meaning, just something that helps you survive. Most people in the US hate their job but they go anyway.

Honestly the reason the US is so depressing right now is because people don't feel like the things they spend most of their time doing are meaningful in any way.

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WingerRules t1_itzpc7c wrote

Many people feel empty or worthless if they're not working, for some its their only means of social interaction even if they're not close friends, some might be genuinely interested in what they're doing, some might like the power/status of their position, etc so not surprised to see it listed so high up.

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Sketzell t1_itzwoyx wrote

But I thought we were talking about why it wasn't higher up

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PlanOk2801 t1_itnpphj wrote

I think it’s crazy that material well-being is ranking higher than friends or health tbh

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Law_Equivalent t1_itpgjl4 wrote

Material well being steadily increases happiness to 100k approximately, knowing you could get fired and still have enough savings etc. to keep your lifestyle up for a long time is very securing and not having to worry about bills etc. Can be a big relief. And if you are paycheck to paycheck you might not even have time/ energy or a good enough job to be able to hang out with friends.

Without any material you're out sleeping on the street without any belongings or possession and have to ride the bus everywhere.

And if you're introverted you dont really need friends or socializing regularly to maintain your energy.

When i didnt have any good job or career i just felt internally and viewed myself as not as good as other people, i viewed others that did on a higher level and felt like tgere was something wrong with me and didn't even want to get a relationship or hangout with friends because i just felt sham

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77bagels77 t1_itn25c2 wrote

I'm actually surprised it isn't higher elsewhere. So many people find meaning in their faiths. It's actually quite sad that "material well being" is a source of meaning for people.

Like "my Mercedes gives me my meaning" or "being an accountant is what give me meaning" is really sad to me.

Thinking something like "God's plan for me gives me meaning" just doesn't sound nearly as trivial or shallow as pointing to things you own or your current job.

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BrklynBab_ushka t1_ito45n2 wrote

Wait what?? You do realize material well being here could also mean like… a house or apartment. Open ended responses means people wrote in various answers, and the analysts converted them to categories. So i highly doubt anyone wrote “Car” over family, but… they may value being able to move from home and provide for themselves materially as e most important thing in their lives rn.

No offense but, having a home sounds a lot more important to me than believing in someones god or goddesses. I do think Hinduism could be very enlightening and fulfilling… but like, would you practice it on the street?

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BrklynBab_ushka t1_ito3hsk wrote

It is high in muslim countries and poorer countries, as well as im sure Israel, the Vatican city-state.

The US is… well, im sure they’d hate to admit it, but the only developed country with that many white ppl who still believe in the gods/goddess religious structure.

But realize, a large swath of america is basically underdeveloped countries, i guarantee you a survey of Nyc + LA + basically the most economically developed cities wouldnt result in Faith being number 5… maybe still top 10 though?

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mkaszycki81 t1_itlq9jw wrote

It's not "one of the most important topics", it's one of the top sources of meaning. If anything, I'm surprised it ranks so low in US, and it's surprising that it doesn't show up for any other country.

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DctrLife t1_itm6ghi wrote

Religiosity is insanely low in every other developed country

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LanewayRat t1_itnec08 wrote

Funny way to put it. I’d say in the US it remains insanely high while for the rest of the 1.4 billion people in developed (OECD) countries it has generally declined much more quickly.

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DctrLife t1_itneius wrote

Lol, I have perspective bias I guess? I am envious of the rest of the OECD that doesn't have to deal with this.

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backelie t1_itp3dov wrote

I would rank health as the most important thing in life, but I don't see how it is a source of meaning at all.

My spidey sense says the outcome is a result of badly phrased questions and confused respondents.

edit: Going to the source it turns out the exact question is "What aspects of your life do you currently find meaningful, fulfilling or satisfying?"

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undefined7196 t1_itlv8p3 wrote

You are surprised that believing in things without evidence doesn’t rank higher?

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ar243 t1_itn2wbq wrote

Oh my goodness what a burn

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DaeronDaDaring t1_itnr540 wrote

Fr that burn was so good omg, he is so smart, huge brain burn 😱

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Jammintoad t1_itndb7n wrote

I agree with u but damn bro u ok?

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undefined7196 t1_itne9jj wrote

Um… yeah. This was tame in comparison to what could be said about faith.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq0kv1 wrote

Let people believe in what they want.

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undefined7196 t1_itq0qm5 wrote

No, beliefs do not exist in a vacuum. First you believe in magic, then you are taking away reproductive rights for all women in America. You believe silly shit, you do silly shit.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq4o8f wrote

Slippery slope fallacy, okay guy

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undefined7196 t1_itq6ycp wrote

That is not how the slippery slope fallacy works. People who believe in magic DID take away reproductive rights for all women in America because they believe in magic. It is not a hypothetical, it actually fucking happened. Slippery slope requires hypothetical, which I am not doing.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq7dy5 wrote

Calling religious belief magic is reductive and untrue. People who are religious have done tons if things, including the original Roe ruling.

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undefined7196 t1_itq7lb0 wrote

If it wasnt magic, it would be science. It is not science, because it is magic. Believing in angels and god, is magic

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq9g4k wrote

Sure, you can have that opinion.

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undefined7196 t1_itqaeg9 wrote

If you do not think resurrection, turning water into wine, walking on water, parting a sea, casting demons into sheep, healing blind people, and all other "miracles" are not magic, then you being intentionally dishonest. It is magic.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itqaq0i wrote

I think it's incredibly reductive. I also think you're associating all religion with the Christian mythos.

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undefined7196 t1_itqaxdo wrote

They all have their own equally magical mythos. And there is nothing wrong with being reductive. Either way it is believing in unfounded nonsense that goes against reality.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itqbhs5 wrote

The whole point of faith is that it can't be objectively proven. I'm an atheist myself who is outraged by the decision against Roe, so I understand at least in part why you feel the way you do.

Nonetheless it irks me when people go hard against religion and mock it and people who follow it. Let people believe what they want to believe. The actions of overzealous American Christians is not an indictment on all religions everywhere. Let people bask in the comfort and assuredness religion brings them. Attacking it and calling it magic is hateful and unnecessary.

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undefined7196 t1_itqbwgj wrote

I disagree. Fuck all magical thinking. It is dangerous and is poison to the mind.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itqc0tc wrote

It helps a lot of people. It isn't poison to every mind and blanket statements are almost never correct.

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SenecatheEldest t1_itnojjc wrote

I think it's crazy everywhere else uses material well-being.

My life has meaning because I have money is simply absurd, and it seems to be found practically everywhere.

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Uggyuggy t1_itons5f wrote

I wonder if any answers such as “quality of living conditions” have been pigeonholed into this category?

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torchma t1_itoseki wrote

> Crazy to see "Faith" as one of the most important topic in the US...

Tell me you aren't American without telling me you aren't American.

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LanewayRat t1_itnd5ks wrote

Other measures back this up. For example, about 64% of Americans identify as Christian compared to about 44% of Australians.

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Manovsteele t1_itp70gt wrote

And there's nuance to that too. I'm sure a high percentage of British people still identify as Christian, as that's how they were brought up, but an incredibly small percentage are active.

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LanewayRat t1_itpqiw4 wrote

Not sure why that’s relevant? British people are less than 1 in 25 Australians. There are many many more Asian born people here in Australia than British. This is a mainstream trend not an immigration thing though. But yes the Anglican Church here is loosing people faster than the Catholic Church is.

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Manovsteele t1_itpr6tx wrote

I was just imply that putting a religion down on a census and actually being religious are two very different things, that often can't be picked up on surveys etc.

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LanewayRat t1_itps0a1 wrote

No mate this is real and has moved on from that. Once Australians did tend to report “Christian” in the census when they only went to church for weddings, funerals and Christmas when grandma made them go, but nowadays these people of all ages report “no religion”. The default culture is not Christian and so people (generally) don’t feel the need to say they are that when they aren’t.

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Manovsteele t1_itpsp5i wrote

Yeah I'd say it's probably the same with my generation here in the UK, but wouldn't be surprised if my parents and their generation would still put Christian on a census despite not being in a church for 10 years!

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SpendSeparate4971 t1_itorl3p wrote

Ya it was a little surprising the US was the only country that had that even on there. It's the top one for me, but I realize I'm a minority there lol.

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MakeTiMake t1_itorxrs wrote

My assumption is that a high number of people ranked it amongst top 3, while the rest did not rank it at all. Therefore the high ranking.

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