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authorPGAusten t1_itlyjdo wrote

In Italy, the family is the occupation

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Busy-Alarm-9802 t1_itoswco wrote

Kinda “their thing” 😏

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Random_Radiance t1_itp3ipl wrote

"If you know what I mean" ;)

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PennyWise_0001 t1_itpe7al wrote

I don't :-(

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Healthy-Quarter-5903 t1_itlhbpe wrote

Interesting!

Crazy to see "Faith" as one of the most important topic in the US...

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Artchantress t1_itlpjkq wrote

I was surprised to find that material well being/occupation is not in top 2 for US. The stories about the office culture over there are insane, and a lot of people seem to be proud about working over 40 hours a week.

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spartikle t1_itmxshk wrote

Key word: “stories.” The average American worker works just under 39 hours a week.

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gone_internal t1_itpg18q wrote

There is some truth to it. I'm thinking those stories come from salaried office jobs. Most lawyers, doctors, auditors, military, and other professionals I work with can easily put in 70 hours a week. And as far as those weekly hour averages are calculated, I wonder how they include people with 2 or more jobs. Also, I suspect that we don't have a great leave system here compared to other developed countries.

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pgnshgn t1_itmzfec wrote

US office culture is more of a free for all than a lot of places, for good and bad. You don't have unions telling the Type As and workaholics to back off and stop working so much, so they're free to do so, and earn that sweet sweet overtime. The flip-side is when one of those types ends up in charge, there's not a lot to stop them from putting those expectations onto the people below them either. Which you end up with can vary by industry, company, and even division within a company.

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CocoMelodia t1_itp2fua wrote

I think this chart can also reflect what people are lacking in each country. The US is very individualistic and people actually crave more connection. The responders probably didn’t think of material well-being as having as much purpose because they already have it.

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YellowSub70 t1_itpcis1 wrote

Yup. U.S. is definitely missing Health and Society. Instead -we have Faith. Thoughts and prayers everyone!!

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tuan_kaki t1_itpq8v3 wrote

Yo hear me out. What if we start exporting thoughts and prayers in exchange for materials again? It’ll be the greatest trade deal, the heathens get high quality ‘murican thoughts and prayers and we get critical resources like oil and fancy minerals!

Man they should make me the secretary of commerce

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Sketzell t1_itozm5k wrote

Occupation is not something that gives your life meaning, just something that helps you survive. Most people in the US hate their job but they go anyway.

Honestly the reason the US is so depressing right now is because people don't feel like the things they spend most of their time doing are meaningful in any way.

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WingerRules t1_itzpc7c wrote

Many people feel empty or worthless if they're not working, for some its their only means of social interaction even if they're not close friends, some might be genuinely interested in what they're doing, some might like the power/status of their position, etc so not surprised to see it listed so high up.

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Sketzell t1_itzwoyx wrote

But I thought we were talking about why it wasn't higher up

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PlanOk2801 t1_itnpphj wrote

I think it’s crazy that material well-being is ranking higher than friends or health tbh

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Law_Equivalent t1_itpgjl4 wrote

Material well being steadily increases happiness to 100k approximately, knowing you could get fired and still have enough savings etc. to keep your lifestyle up for a long time is very securing and not having to worry about bills etc. Can be a big relief. And if you are paycheck to paycheck you might not even have time/ energy or a good enough job to be able to hang out with friends.

Without any material you're out sleeping on the street without any belongings or possession and have to ride the bus everywhere.

And if you're introverted you dont really need friends or socializing regularly to maintain your energy.

When i didnt have any good job or career i just felt internally and viewed myself as not as good as other people, i viewed others that did on a higher level and felt like tgere was something wrong with me and didn't even want to get a relationship or hangout with friends because i just felt sham

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77bagels77 t1_itn25c2 wrote

I'm actually surprised it isn't higher elsewhere. So many people find meaning in their faiths. It's actually quite sad that "material well being" is a source of meaning for people.

Like "my Mercedes gives me my meaning" or "being an accountant is what give me meaning" is really sad to me.

Thinking something like "God's plan for me gives me meaning" just doesn't sound nearly as trivial or shallow as pointing to things you own or your current job.

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BrklynBab_ushka t1_ito45n2 wrote

Wait what?? You do realize material well being here could also mean like… a house or apartment. Open ended responses means people wrote in various answers, and the analysts converted them to categories. So i highly doubt anyone wrote “Car” over family, but… they may value being able to move from home and provide for themselves materially as e most important thing in their lives rn.

No offense but, having a home sounds a lot more important to me than believing in someones god or goddesses. I do think Hinduism could be very enlightening and fulfilling… but like, would you practice it on the street?

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BrklynBab_ushka t1_ito3hsk wrote

It is high in muslim countries and poorer countries, as well as im sure Israel, the Vatican city-state.

The US is… well, im sure they’d hate to admit it, but the only developed country with that many white ppl who still believe in the gods/goddess religious structure.

But realize, a large swath of america is basically underdeveloped countries, i guarantee you a survey of Nyc + LA + basically the most economically developed cities wouldnt result in Faith being number 5… maybe still top 10 though?

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mkaszycki81 t1_itlq9jw wrote

It's not "one of the most important topics", it's one of the top sources of meaning. If anything, I'm surprised it ranks so low in US, and it's surprising that it doesn't show up for any other country.

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DctrLife t1_itm6ghi wrote

Religiosity is insanely low in every other developed country

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LanewayRat t1_itnec08 wrote

Funny way to put it. I’d say in the US it remains insanely high while for the rest of the 1.4 billion people in developed (OECD) countries it has generally declined much more quickly.

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DctrLife t1_itneius wrote

Lol, I have perspective bias I guess? I am envious of the rest of the OECD that doesn't have to deal with this.

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backelie t1_itp3dov wrote

I would rank health as the most important thing in life, but I don't see how it is a source of meaning at all.

My spidey sense says the outcome is a result of badly phrased questions and confused respondents.

edit: Going to the source it turns out the exact question is "What aspects of your life do you currently find meaningful, fulfilling or satisfying?"

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undefined7196 t1_itlv8p3 wrote

You are surprised that believing in things without evidence doesn’t rank higher?

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ar243 t1_itn2wbq wrote

Oh my goodness what a burn

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DaeronDaDaring t1_itnr540 wrote

Fr that burn was so good omg, he is so smart, huge brain burn 😱

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Jammintoad t1_itndb7n wrote

I agree with u but damn bro u ok?

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undefined7196 t1_itne9jj wrote

Um… yeah. This was tame in comparison to what could be said about faith.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq0kv1 wrote

Let people believe in what they want.

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undefined7196 t1_itq0qm5 wrote

No, beliefs do not exist in a vacuum. First you believe in magic, then you are taking away reproductive rights for all women in America. You believe silly shit, you do silly shit.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq4o8f wrote

Slippery slope fallacy, okay guy

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undefined7196 t1_itq6ycp wrote

That is not how the slippery slope fallacy works. People who believe in magic DID take away reproductive rights for all women in America because they believe in magic. It is not a hypothetical, it actually fucking happened. Slippery slope requires hypothetical, which I am not doing.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq7dy5 wrote

Calling religious belief magic is reductive and untrue. People who are religious have done tons if things, including the original Roe ruling.

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undefined7196 t1_itq7lb0 wrote

If it wasnt magic, it would be science. It is not science, because it is magic. Believing in angels and god, is magic

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itq9g4k wrote

Sure, you can have that opinion.

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undefined7196 t1_itqaeg9 wrote

If you do not think resurrection, turning water into wine, walking on water, parting a sea, casting demons into sheep, healing blind people, and all other "miracles" are not magic, then you being intentionally dishonest. It is magic.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itqaq0i wrote

I think it's incredibly reductive. I also think you're associating all religion with the Christian mythos.

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undefined7196 t1_itqaxdo wrote

They all have their own equally magical mythos. And there is nothing wrong with being reductive. Either way it is believing in unfounded nonsense that goes against reality.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itqbhs5 wrote

The whole point of faith is that it can't be objectively proven. I'm an atheist myself who is outraged by the decision against Roe, so I understand at least in part why you feel the way you do.

Nonetheless it irks me when people go hard against religion and mock it and people who follow it. Let people believe what they want to believe. The actions of overzealous American Christians is not an indictment on all religions everywhere. Let people bask in the comfort and assuredness religion brings them. Attacking it and calling it magic is hateful and unnecessary.

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undefined7196 t1_itqbwgj wrote

I disagree. Fuck all magical thinking. It is dangerous and is poison to the mind.

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Business_Falcon7941 t1_itqc0tc wrote

It helps a lot of people. It isn't poison to every mind and blanket statements are almost never correct.

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SenecatheEldest t1_itnojjc wrote

I think it's crazy everywhere else uses material well-being.

My life has meaning because I have money is simply absurd, and it seems to be found practically everywhere.

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Uggyuggy t1_itons5f wrote

I wonder if any answers such as “quality of living conditions” have been pigeonholed into this category?

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torchma t1_itoseki wrote

> Crazy to see "Faith" as one of the most important topic in the US...

Tell me you aren't American without telling me you aren't American.

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LanewayRat t1_itnd5ks wrote

Other measures back this up. For example, about 64% of Americans identify as Christian compared to about 44% of Australians.

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Manovsteele t1_itp70gt wrote

And there's nuance to that too. I'm sure a high percentage of British people still identify as Christian, as that's how they were brought up, but an incredibly small percentage are active.

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LanewayRat t1_itpqiw4 wrote

Not sure why that’s relevant? British people are less than 1 in 25 Australians. There are many many more Asian born people here in Australia than British. This is a mainstream trend not an immigration thing though. But yes the Anglican Church here is loosing people faster than the Catholic Church is.

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Manovsteele t1_itpr6tx wrote

I was just imply that putting a religion down on a census and actually being religious are two very different things, that often can't be picked up on surveys etc.

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LanewayRat t1_itps0a1 wrote

No mate this is real and has moved on from that. Once Australians did tend to report “Christian” in the census when they only went to church for weddings, funerals and Christmas when grandma made them go, but nowadays these people of all ages report “no religion”. The default culture is not Christian and so people (generally) don’t feel the need to say they are that when they aren’t.

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Manovsteele t1_itpsp5i wrote

Yeah I'd say it's probably the same with my generation here in the UK, but wouldn't be surprised if my parents and their generation would still put Christian on a census despite not being in a church for 10 years!

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SpendSeparate4971 t1_itorl3p wrote

Ya it was a little surprising the US was the only country that had that even on there. It's the top one for me, but I realize I'm a minority there lol.

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MakeTiMake t1_itorxrs wrote

My assumption is that a high number of people ranked it amongst top 3, while the rest did not rank it at all. Therefore the high ranking.

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borisdiebestie t1_itm4l9v wrote

Korea is all about the moolah

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Random_Radiance t1_itp3khm wrote

I found that surprising as well...That's crazy. No wonder why their electronics are kick-ass.

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borisdiebestie t1_itpng9e wrote

I did not find that surprising. My impression as a tourist two years ago was that especially young Koreans were immensely superficial. Outer appearance (Make-Up, designer clothes, plastic surgery) and posing for social media seemed to be the very defining thing in their lives.

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Arumdaum t1_itt88nq wrote

Girls everywhere wear makeup and young people everywhere spend time on social media. As someone who's spent a lot of time in both Korea and the US the main difference is that Koreans care a lot more about how they dress (and then, not designer, unless this guy was hanging out only in super rich areas).

Korea's emphasis on material wellbeing is probably more related to the fact that Korea was extremely impoverished as a whole until very recently

Same with Taiwan, except Taiwan started somewhat better off, and this is perhaps also shown by the chart

And same with how "freedom" is present only for Korea and Taiwan, considering both only transitioned away from dictatorship fairly recently

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Gigagondor t1_itnp74v wrote

Spain not choosing family?

I am pretty sure the question was not well translated

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Four_beastlings t1_itozcid wrote

Pretty sure that the people were responding with what they're missing, not with the needs they have fulfilled. Spain is 10x more family orientated than the US.

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backelie t1_itp3of1 wrote

The question was "What aspects of your life do you currently find meaningful, fulfilling or satisfying?"

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Four_beastlings t1_itp4l89 wrote

Yeah, but what was the question in Spanish? I wouldn't know how to properly translate that question tbh.

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xukly t1_itpfy5u wrote

if that is the question there have been problems in the traslation somewhere, because health is a really weird response for that

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backelie t1_itpjdiu wrote

I dont think being satisfied with ones health is weird.

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PlanOk2801 t1_itnqr4s wrote

Yup, there is no way Spain isn’t choosing family as one of the top 2

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xukly t1_itpg181 wrote

Yeah, my bet would be that the question was along the lines of "what do you consider most important?" or something. That would explain health being so high too

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Imperterritus0907 t1_itp8fjx wrote

I’m pretty sure it’d be something on the lines of ‘what do you reckon is more important/ the bare minimum needed to live a pleasant/good life’. The “health comes first” bit is a very ingrained thought in the Spanish mindset (“La Salud es lo primero :)”) so I’m not even surprised, and material well-being is sort of tied to health as well, because if you can’t pay your heating and utilities… so for me as a Spaniard it all makes sense. We’re family-oriented but we’re also very realistic and the basics come first.

Also the Occupation bit I’m pretty sure it just means “a job” and not a career, when asked in Spain. Unemployment has been rampant in Spain for years so even the thought of a proper career is a bit laughable.

So yeah, health, material well-being, occupation and then family sound good to me in that order as a Spaniard.

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xukly t1_itpg26o wrote

> The “health comes first” is a very ingrained thought in the Spanish mindset (La Salud es lo primero :) )

Especially after a global pandemic

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Whateveridontkare t1_itqf0kx wrote

family is not as important in Spain, IDK where u took that from.

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Gigagondor t1_itqfbyt wrote

So basically you have never meet people from Spain, or you are Spanish and have never meet people from Sweeden, USA, etc. so you can't compare.

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Why people love to speak about things they know 0 in internet?... seriously, stop.

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Whateveridontkare t1_itqifxd wrote

I am spanish and spend all my summers in sweden lmao

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Gigagondor t1_itql3s6 wrote

Yeah, sure. What a coincidence, just the two countries I said...

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Whateveridontkare t1_itqm922 wrote

read my comments lmaoooo you were just unlucky with your theory.

If you wanna hear my opinion is that sure, family is kinda always there, but there isn't as much of a "doing it for you family". Sure I see my family once every two weeks and talk with my mother quite a lot, but there isn't much of an obligation to meet, you kinda meet if you wanna. Possibly after Franco's regime people were fed up with family traditions and expectations.

Having a family near doesn't mean its your priority, people here are very social and family is just another social circle, people my age and older 20s-30s kinda have given up of forming families due to economic stress, that could also be part of it.

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Gigagondor t1_itr8iux wrote

Yes yes we know everyone is wrong and you are right...

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TheCasualParry t1_itmvnt3 wrote

I wonder how living in Taiwan is... Having Society as a priority sounds like the best option for me (at least objectively).

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Cubelia t1_itqclhd wrote

Taiwanese here, I'd say we mostly recognize the problems by ourselves(self aware). The interviews are pretty much spot on.

  • Good social relationship(knowing as many people as you can) is a must have if you work in Taiwan.

  • Price index/inflation(material well-being) is a rising concern, especially real estate market(dare I say it's shit).

  • Taiwan is a small place, you wouldn't have to worry about arranging and traveling 500+ km just to have family reunion.

  • Work hour and wage(occupation) is a problem(again, shit) compared to western countries. Hard working is pretty much taken to the next level in Taiwan. We're well aware of this but life still has to go on. (This has some sort of correlation with craving for freedom.)

  • We have one of the best national health care system in the world, that's why we're not really concerned about health.(though cancer prevalence rate is still concerning)

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TheCasualParry t1_itqcy5c wrote

Everything sounds fine or normal (at least to me), except the working thing. I hope you have a non-stressful job.

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Cubelia t1_itr18gq wrote

Thanks man, contentment is strong among Taiwanese citizens and we're happy about what we have now, no worries on my part!

Additional info on society: Again, Taiwan is so small and the chances of meeting someone you knew is quite a thing, not crazy common but possible.(population density is 640 people/km^2)

i.e. Your colleague or even the boss might be your old schoolmate or used to be at the same platoon(if you served in the military). Chances are, just eating in a random restaurant and met with your old friend is entirely possible.

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Raphael-no-Mauny t1_itmyzko wrote

While I would agree with you, I suspect that it is heavily counter balanced by the second one. Society is priority but society purpose is to serves the second priority which is material consumption. So my guess is that it's not very different than most western country that probably lies to themself when giving their priorities. I think the only difference is that Taiwanese people are self aware.

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Skrachen t1_itoywwy wrote

The poll was an open-ended question, so I guess people will say the first things that come to their minds.

Now in Taiwan, we have regular threats of invasion from a country which society works very differently, so that's probably the reason why society and freedom rank so high. They also rank high in South Korea, probably for the same reason.

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cgjh93 t1_ito42ph wrote

Ukraine would also have society as the top priority

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Efficient-Sport-6673 t1_itoxtdx wrote

Really? Then why is it such a corrupt country?

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cgjh93 t1_itp5f6f wrote

I say that less about how the country operattes, and more because of the time surveyed (Spring 2021). I'm guessing that Taiwan wanting to be its own society and not China is influencing that outcome. Hence, I believe Ukraine would similarly have society as #1 right now.

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mkaszycki81 t1_itlqn7p wrote

I'm frightened about countries in which General Positive is ranked so highly. Who is that general? Why is he such an important inspiration for meaning in life?

(And while my comment above is tongue in cheek, I still wonder about the exact question asked, because "General Positive" attitude towards life giving it meaning sounds incredibly hollow and to me it indicates a "General Dissatisfaction" and meaninglessness with inability to name what is important to the individual.)

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SortaWrong t1_itob339 wrote

It's a kind of "Overall well-being" obviously.

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Gnitwyn t1_itmm8pw wrote

Health>Partner/Family>Friends

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bentdaisy t1_itnwdlk wrote

Yes! Those of us with chronic health conditions know that nothing happens in life without health. You don’t get to spend meaningful time with family and friends (I spend a lot of time sleeping), you can’t work like you would like to, you don’t make it to church because you are resting from the work week, your finances are strained from medical bills and/or lack of work, etc.

Preserve your health!

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NEYO8uw11qgD0J t1_itneqca wrote

Being an American is such a mixed bag sometimes. On the one hand, we're the only developed nation backward enough to have "Faith" make the Top 5. But on the other, I'm proud of the fact we prioritize Friends over Occupation. It's shocking how only two other countries rank Friends that highly.

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DaeronDaDaring t1_itnqdbd wrote

What’s wrong with finding meaning in faith? As long as you’re not hurting anyone I don’t see the issue. If faith helps a person keep going forward and find happiness in their life, I don’t see anything wrong with that.

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almightygarlicdoggo t1_ito3yfv wrote

There's nothing wrong with faith being a priority, but it's wrong, and a bit sad, when this graph points out that in the US faith is a bigger priority than health, society or hobbies. Especially health.

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autarky_architect t1_itooeaz wrote

Maybe so, but faith is an important part of spiritual health ,spiritual health is an important part of mental health,and mental health is a significant part of physical health and hygiene.

A person's faith is often cited as the driving force for why they were willing to help others (especially in times of personal danger) .

To argue faith somehow undermines a person's priority to health or society is simply naive.

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pk10534 t1_itog3w7 wrote

It's not a zero sum game though. I can be Christian or Muslim and feel very devoted to my faith and still take great care of my health. I don't wake up and have to choose between my priorities being my hobbies and having faith. Ranking my faith above health for my values does not mean I don't take care of myself just as much as somebody with no faith.

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Truthirdare t1_itpbnec wrote

Not surprised faith was a priority in the US. People of faith often spend much of their social time in their church activities, volunteering, bible study, choir, etc. I am lucky to be in good health so don’t think a lot about it. But I pray daily and am appreciative of my faith. And as a Christian, we believe in the resurrection and afterlife, which is kind of a big deal. So, not surprising to me at all that faith made one of the top sources of meaning. I know my Jewish and Muslim neighbors feel the same.

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desnyr t1_ito6zwx wrote

Health or society should be number one. Those are really the true things that guarantee survival in a society. Not going to live very long being obese or depressed.

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13lacle t1_itooffi wrote

To begin with faith has a definition issue which causes confusion. Where people use it colloquially to mean different things that are similar but not interchangeable. Such as trust, hope, confidence, belief, evidence and evidence of things not seen. Then it can be misinterpreted between people, or have the meaning changed in-between premises which can trick people.

For what is the harm, faith is what allows people to smuggle in insufficient evidence to support their claims. This causes people to believe false information, which once convinced of they will then act on. This includes direct actions and indirect such as voting for harmful policies or not stopping someone else from doing something harmful. Another harm is false hope. Secondarily, if you use faith as a method for determining what is true in one situation, you are more susceptible to it in other. Opening yourself up to being conned.

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HugginMySnuggie t1_ito9pu0 wrote

Somehow Maternal Well-being made the top 3 when we are the only industrialized nation without mandated paid maternal/paternal leave

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potato_1995 t1_itp2q1u wrote

As someone who's currently residing in Taiwan, it is interesting to see 'Society' being placed as the 1st choice. Makes me ponder if that is the reason why the people here, in general, are quite respectful and cordial to others in public settings

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Efficient-Sport-6673 t1_itoxpkx wrote

After two years of sideline watching the k dramas my gf watches, Im not surprised. Material wealth and status seems to be in front of every single show.

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PixelCortex t1_itp37dx wrote

Taiwan has this shit figured out.

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Reloadme_ t1_itm9rph wrote

US: family. Also US: son, you're 18 now, so pay rent or gtfo

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pgnshgn t1_itmvbwy wrote

Crazy how in a country of 330 million people there's more than 1 opinion...

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rasmusca t1_itnhdu2 wrote

well family is suppose to teach you responsibilities so...

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pk10534 t1_itoft5a wrote

Loving your family doesn't mean you have to let an adult who's perfectly capable of taking care of themselves reside in your house for free. That being said, I hardly knew anybody whose parents didn't help their kids after they turned 18.

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kinredditshk t1_itolaof wrote

Seeing Society and Freedom for Taiwan is looking like they are really gearing up for something.

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ElectionOver4Hours t1_itlp47w wrote

And yet people give up their entire lives to work some corporate middle-manager position.

We have the tech.

Give gainful employment and better wages. That way, we can enjoy our lives, families, engaging work, etc.

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Raphael-no-Mauny t1_itmxt23 wrote

Well I assume that is self reported by unselfaware people. If it was close to reality, how would you explain the way society works ? 🤔

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Veloder t1_itmxyzs wrote

I'm pretty skeptical about that data, at least about Spain and the US, the order doesn't seem right.

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Mike_for_all t1_itnuu03 wrote

The Dutch really turned things around there

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Miinchia-che-palle t1_itoik55 wrote

Faith/religion isn't important in Italy? . Hard to believe that.

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Capital_Craft t1_itokt2b wrote

I'm surprised Japan doesn't have Society, and surprised the US is the only one with Faith.

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Joshuawood98 t1_itom8rm wrote

Love my UK up there still keeping hobbies alive <3

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IndependentUnlucky26 t1_itoyajy wrote

Occupation is 5th for the NL, interesting! I always thought that the Dutch really love the work and do some good honest hard work.

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Joosh93 t1_itoysh6 wrote

Man, the UK was maybe 1 away from what it should realistically be, get occupation down below health.

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rascian038 t1_itpcnfk wrote

For a country like America that prides itself with "hustling", working for 12 hours, doing 2 jobs (without paid maternity leave or even paid holidays) and having the most anti-humane possible "9 to 5" system, while marriages that last for a lifetime are almost nonexistent, it's pretty unlikely that occupation is only the fourth and family the first.

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SorchaNB t1_itpdiel wrote

Surely health is the core value which enables you to actualise and enjoy all the other values, its absence being death.

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jadams2345 t1_itpe7l2 wrote

No wonder people kill themselves a lot in South Korea

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PennyWise_0001 t1_itpeado wrote

Gives interesting context to the UKs GDP per capita is lagging behind with occupation coming 4th.

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-non-existance- t1_itpef5h wrote

Lol, ofc USA is the only one with faith on this list.

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dahliaukifune t1_itqj2a0 wrote

Spaniard here who has lived in the US for 10 years. We wouldn’t respond like Americans “oh, family!”; we would be honest. Health (and we probably are not thinking just OUR health) absolutely comes first.

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kgbking t1_itsaec7 wrote

Wow, freedom barely made it on the list for any country

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kgbking t1_itsap2v wrote

That friends and society are so low on Canada's list displays how individualistic Canada is

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isUKexactlyTsameasUS t1_itmq63o wrote

We're new-ish in NL (in 2015/2016).

It's great to see NLs have their priorities right.

Chart implies dutchies wouldn't take care at work.

We've needed many tradesmen over those 6 or 8 years.

All were so much better than what we knew before (in CA UK US).

All were reasonably $$, came when said they would, did good work, and some did great work.

(and we use coolblue instead of useless ama$on.)

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LanewayRat t1_itnft5m wrote

What? The data doesn’t imply anything about that. It’s what gives people meaning in life. Great “tradesmen” don’t necessarily need to derive meaning in life from their occupation in order to be good at their work.

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Mike_for_all t1_itnvcpj wrote

Coolblue is a pretty reliable company. They are also really lenient with returns and warranties.

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ARC000X t1_itp9go5 wrote

China is so messed up, it’s not even on there…

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ReaperLPN t1_itpi2zs wrote

News just in from China: Occupation, Occupation, Occupation, Occupation, Occupation.

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rodolphoteardrop t1_itlnlla wrote

I suspect that there were no Middle Eastern countries in this because it would imply that the US is just as "radicalized" as the Middle East.

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JumpingPotato1 t1_itmshae wrote

They are asking "advanced economies" and my guess is that no middle east country meets that, though, not sure why UAE wouldn't meet it in a way that Singapore does.

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get-me-right t1_itndvwy wrote

Universities from the available nations are pretty communicative with one another

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