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barlog123 t1_ivo6s41 wrote

How? They all have to be backed up with gas and coal because they're unreliable so it's renewable + gas/coal which isn't very green

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Staeff t1_ivo6un7 wrote

Are you arguing that being fully fossil is more green than renewables with fossil backup?

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barlog123 t1_ivo8uny wrote

Yeah, why not.

  1. The production and demand just shifts to other places so going green does very little in the grand scheme of things.
  2. Creates reliance on outdated unclean oil/gas/coal infrastructure and rouge nations especially in the case of an emergency.
  3. The net total reduction is minimalized by the need for backup until the battery tech is there.
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Staeff t1_ivo9sbc wrote

If that's what you choose to tell yourself to rationalize not going green then please stick to it, you are beyond being argued with...

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barlog123 t1_ivoa06d wrote

I'm not saying don't go green. I'm saying the current plan is beyond stupid and pointless

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