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taggedandgagged t1_ivoqt8g wrote

Reply to comment by Staeff in More people are employed in clean energy than in fossil fuels by kickresume

How about the fact that fossil fuels require many fewer jobs to provide the world with enough energy to sustain

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vjx99 t1_ivoxzbf wrote

Yet they're still the cheaper form of energy production. Which means the money is going to workers instead of oligarchs.

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taggedandgagged t1_ivoye2l wrote

No they are not? Wtf are you talkin about. They are much more expensive for the output you get

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vjx99 t1_ivozabl wrote

[Renewables are now significantly undercutting fossil fuels as the world’s cheapest source of energy, according to a new report.

Of the wind, solar and other renewables that came on stream in 2020, nearly two-thirds – 62% – were cheaper than the cheapest new fossil fuel, according to the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA).

](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/renewables-cheapest-energy-source/)

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Staeff t1_ivoyt3p wrote

The required labor of renewables gets less over the lifetime of an installation as you don't need to keep a whole mining/drilling/shipping operation going to provide fuel.

But besides that what would it matter that you need more labor? As long as it's cheaper overall to produce renewable energy the number of jobs doesn't really mean anything.

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taggedandgagged t1_ivoz1xf wrote

Its not cheaper overall and has so many more employees because of the necessary human labor to get anything within a magnitude of fossil fuel production. Or we could just go nuclear green and get over the shitty wind turbines already

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Staeff t1_ivozdrt wrote

https://www.irena.org/publications/2022/Jul/Renewable-Power-Generation-Costs-in-2021

>The lifetime cost per kWh of new solar and wind capacity added in Europe in 2021 will average at least four to six times less than the marginal generating costs of fossil fuels in 2022.
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>Globally, new renewable capacity added in 2021 could reduce electricity generation costs in 2022 by at least USD 55 billion.
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>Between January and May 2022 in Europe, solar and wind generation, alone, avoided fossil fuel imports of at least USD 50 billion.

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