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xylopyrography t1_ivugsgj wrote

Reply to comment by Regressionbyhand in [OC] World's Largest Plastic Polluter Now 2022 United Nations Climate Change Conference Sponsor by haboo213

Ban bottled water by corporations. If a community wants/needs bottled water, they should bottle it themselves with their own treatment facility.

Consider banning basic flavoured beverages. Just have consumers and businesses buy the powder and add to tap water.

For 1 L and less switch to aluminum (but ban packing plastic)

For 1.25 L and above switch to either vending style with powder or wax carton, or just have consumers buy multiples of 1 L.

Carbon footprint of transportation is already a problem being solved and can be accelerated through carbon pricing.

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richraid21 t1_ivum7jk wrote

> If a community wants/needs bottled water, they should bottle it themselves with their own treatment facility.

This is so god damn stupid I can only think you're a troll.

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xylopyrography t1_ivuu5tw wrote

Well, 99% of communities don't need bottled water. It serves no function.

I've been to communities that bottle their own water. You can do it and sell it profitably for $0.50.

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Daddy_Parietal t1_ivv2z8f wrote

You miss the point. People that "need" bottled water are the same people that just want easy access to good drinking water.

So just make the tap water fit those conditions and it would save infinitely more money than every city in the US having a water bottling plant.

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xylopyrography t1_ivv69vx wrote

No they aren't. That's less than 1% of bottled water usage. Probably less than 0.1%.

I live in Alberta. We have among the strictest water quality standards in the world, far more stringent than bottled water. Yet every grocery store sells palettes of bottled water a week and there are entire service industries created around businesses purchasing bulk water for water coolers that are shipped around on trucks from far away distribution plants.

All of that can be replaced with a metal water bottle and our tap water.

And for the communities without access to clean drinking water, there are dozens of other solutions, of which 0.5 L plastic bottle water containers are among the worst.

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Regressionbyhand t1_ivuju95 wrote

All great ideas. However I was pointing out that plastic isn’t an issue necessarily when considering greenhouse gas emissions.

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xylopyrography t1_ivuuhna wrote

I get they're separate issues. I think plastic is much worse considering the trend lines. That is, it's the bigger problem 50-70 years form now on our current path.

We are on the track to solve the carbon problem within 100 years, and can probably start reversing the damage.

But the damage we've done with plastic is continuing and it's going to take hundreds of years to undo it, even if we find a way to do it quickly.

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