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PietOnTheRoad t1_iwlqi30 wrote

Reply to comment by tommytornado in US States, Police Training v Shootings/Violent Crime (per million) [OC] by tommytornado

Thanks for the additional perspective on that type of data.

As an European, I guess the actual reason for all the shootings incl police shootings is very much connected with culture. You guys love your weapons and carry them around. And then, whether it’s a police encounter or a bar fight, you don’t use your fists but your weapons.

Look at Switzerland, every household has a weapon, but nobody is carrying it. Look at a lot of countries with low weapon ownership, typically also low number of shootings. And look for countries where a lot people carrying weapons, they encounter similar problems as the US.

I don’t think it’s police training (maybe plays a part in here, though) but it’s culture.

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Saxit t1_iwn0xt6 wrote

> As an European, I guess the actual reason for all the shootings incl police shootings is very much connected with culture. You guys love your weapons and carry them around. And then, whether it’s a police encounter or a bar fight, you don’t use your fists but your weapons.

The Czech Republic has had shall issue concealed carry for about 30 years, and a majority of gun owners there has a permit for that. Their police does not shoot any more people per capita than the British police does (CZ has a lower homicide rate than the UK as well).

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tommytornado OP t1_iwlqy9d wrote

All of this. Plus I suspect deep down fear plays a big part but that in itself is probably quite tightly related to crime rates and gun ownership.

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DJ_Die t1_iwn9w5n wrote

>And look for countries where a lot people carrying weapons, they encounter similar problems as the US.

They do not. Here in the Czech Republic, almost all gun owners can carry guns and we have no such issues. In fact, Czech police kill fewer people per capita than the police in the UK.

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