Submitted by born_in_cyberspace t3_yykl1w in dataisbeautiful
[deleted] t1_iwvjup8 wrote
It's funny how everyone here us attacking this objectively amazing track record just because they don't like the guy. Reddit is just pathetic.
myersjw t1_iwvzmnk wrote
Probably because it’s presenting opinions as fact. Try not to trip over yourself jumping to conclusions though
[deleted] t1_iwvzt6m wrote
What about this isn't true?
myersjw t1_iww0vmp wrote
Just for starters: Musk didn’t found Tesla, there is no statistical metric or table that explains what “almost failed” “made it a unicorn” “global leader” etc are supposed to mean beyond what OP thinks, not to mention it’s missing multiple business ventures during that time to paint an image that is inaccurate.
[deleted] t1_iww190f wrote
- Tesla is the company he bought in this chart.
- A company being a "unicorn" means it has a Billion dollar valvaluation.
- "Global leader" is subjective, but it's hard to argue it wouldn't apply to SpaceX or Tesla.
myersjw t1_iww2kzi wrote
So again, multiple nebulous terms and several ventures not listed (conveniently excluding the giant one he’s currently tanking.) This is a data visualization subreddit and this is messy and misleading
DuxAvalonia t1_iwwy5eo wrote
The survivorship bias of the sample is ridiculous. This track record is only amazing because it is only tracking the relative successes and it’s leaving out a number of ventures he put his money into…
…it’s observational selection.
[deleted] t1_iwwyawj wrote
If you fail 10 times and the 11th you found a billion dollar company you're still a success..
DuxAvalonia t1_iwx09t2 wrote
You can still call him successful if you want. However, you called this an objectively amazing track record. I am pointing out (as are many others) that this is not the complete track record. This is a sample put together with clear bias. If I made a chart of all of quarterback’s performance in the last two minutes of football games but I only included games when he led game-winning drives, then I am not fairly presenting data.
This is not even a principle of data science. This is basic informal logic at a middle-school level.
People aren’t attacking it because it’s about Musk. People are attacking it because it’s an unethical and inaccurate presentation of Musk and a few Musk fanboys don’t have the logical or critical thinking chops to make the distinction.
[deleted] t1_iwx0hrh wrote
You're delusional if you don't think this is about Musk specifically.
DuxAvalonia t1_iwx390z wrote
The part that is about Musk specifically is that as he reveals his total lack of competence in managing Twitter, a fan of his presented inaccurate and skewed data to try to prop him up. Then, as the obvious errors are called out, people who are part of his cult are using phrases like “objectively amazing” to describe things that are neither objective nor amazing.
Even your own response to my initial comment didn’t acknowledge the error in the graph, it just moved the goalposts. Do you really not see that?
[deleted] t1_iwz6rap wrote
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abhishekjacob21 t1_iwyqesm wrote
How pathetic are these people… so desperate to hate the dude. The most popular comment so far is someone finding the stupidest reasons to be butt hurt about this. Such a biased opinionated post that tries to illustrate basic fact about the businesses he has operated.
[deleted] t1_iwyqox2 wrote
Guarantee you nobody here has started a company even remotely close to successful. What's really sad is how these same people worshiped the ground he walked on a few years ago. I've been an Elon hater since way before it was cool, but you can't deny these companies are successful. People are just being delusional.
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