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nitrolagy t1_ixchxhd wrote
It's like an optical illusion. I came here looking for this comment
Savoy_Cabbage OP t1_ixcjbau wrote
Haha I see it now!
danieljefferysmith t1_ixckxi1 wrote
Same! I scrolled to the edge of my screen to check it wasn’t bent
eryuu t1_ixe2glc wrote
Only came to the comments to make sure it was a thing
Weirdnessssss t1_ixd43v9 wrote
So true
KikeRiffs t1_ixcoaaq wrote
Interesting to see. Amazon is incredibly dramatic. Also Meta. The other ones are more or less market correction. I’m wonder if it’s a good time to go bull.
ChocolateBunny t1_ixf0ykj wrote
First company to lose $1trillion dollars in market cap.
originalusername__ t1_ixcz335 wrote
I’m kinda bullish on Amazon personally. Not so much on meta.
LookOnTheDarkSide t1_ixd7ry9 wrote
Should be three years. 2020-2022. Amazon ~ doubled value over 2020. No way to keep that level of growth for an extended period of time.
originalusername__ t1_ixd82fm wrote
I think the market hates everything right now so it’s a long hold for me. It hasn’t aged well and I’m down 20% but fuck it, I think they’re so deep in everyday life that they’ll succeed in the long term. Covid way overinflated some stuff but it also gave them huge money to invest in infrastructure upgrades and test the waters on some new stuff. It’ll come back… I hope.
atsyrks t1_ixexf5h wrote
Not Amazon getting the most of our governments subsidies on federal,state,and local levels during the pandemic...how cute
Ambitious-Event-5911 t1_ixfr1gr wrote
But the hits keep coming. I think Jassey needs to go and they bring back Bezos.
dynamic_gecko t1_ixgeeuv wrote
What does "going bull" mean? (Serious question)
L3R4F t1_ixciq9e wrote
What is the company after NVDA?
Savoy_Cabbage OP t1_ixcj9w3 wrote
Tencent, a Chinese multinational tech and entertainment company
ElderWandOwner t1_ixcny41 wrote
They own league of legends among other games.
ThibiiX t1_ixdcx7k wrote
They own 100% of Riot Games (League of legends, Valorant), PUBG Mobile, 84% of Supercell (Clash of Clans, Clash Royale), 80% of Grinding Gear Games (Path of Exile) and 40% of Epic (Fortnite, Rocket League) to only list the most knowns. Less important but they also own 10% of Ubisoft and 17% of From Software (the Dark Souls games).
So yeah they're kinda huge in gaming actually ahah
j_ona t1_ixgarcv wrote
I’m familiar with about 2 games you mentioned there.
ThibiiX t1_ixhbo41 wrote
Dunno if you say this implying that they are not so big or if it's because you really don't know
Fortnite : 400 Millions registered account, 80+ active every month
League of Legends : 180 millions accounts, peak at 32 Millions active daily
Rocket League has 80M average monthly players for more than 2 years now
PUBG Mobile often peaks at 30+ Million player daily
Clash of Clan (mobile game) has maintained its monthly playerbase between 75 and 150 Million players for like 4 years now
Clash Royale (mobile game) has 16M monthly players
The last Dark Souls game (Elden Ring) sold almost 20 Million copies, Dark Souls 3 sold 10 millions,...
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All these games are huge
ar243 t1_ixe0qpm wrote
So all the crappy ones
FinnaToke t1_ixcq219 wrote
Clash of clans
overbeast t1_ixdp1yd wrote
They also own a nice chunk of Reddit
SanJJ_1 t1_ixd2hxc wrote
I thought riot games owned league?
Pandarmy t1_ixd4vvw wrote
Yep, and tencent owns riot.
SanJJ_1 t1_ixd55i1 wrote
oh damn I never knew
Embarrassed_Alarm450 t1_ixe39e5 wrote
That's how they get you. All these big solo brands you think are independent are mainly owned by an even bigger company. Tencent supposedly gives GGG and Riot pretty great freedom in design choice tho, pretty hands off from what I heard anyway. Not sure how they treat the other games tho.
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ubioandmph t1_ixcqvza wrote
I wondered why the horizontal axis was sloped. Had to squint and stare to realize it’s perfectly straight
Less-Dragonfruit-294 t1_ixcreg5 wrote
Almost like they were going to plummet soon as the free cash stopped being pumped.
PoopingIsAWorkout4Me t1_ixg441b wrote
Still baffles me that people don’t understand the macroeconomics behind this, and they think “ugh, market is broken!”
It took the Nasdaq ~16 years to recover to levels seen in 2000 before the dot com bust. This time, we’ll see, but boy if people think that after this reversal of record cash infusion, fed buying and interest rate increases that the market will recover in a year or two, they’ve got something else coming to them.
Imo, look at the 1960s. That’s what we’re gonna do for the next decade.
Less-Dragonfruit-294 t1_ixg7e6m wrote
Dude anyone who thinks that we’ll be okay is living in a fantasy.
PoopingIsAWorkout4Me t1_ixhgl1a wrote
We will be, but it’s gonna take a looonnngg time
Savoy_Cabbage OP t1_ixccvwb wrote
- Source: yCharts as of 21 November 2022
- Tool: Google Sheets
notacanuckskibum t1_ixdswr4 wrote
Ugly presentation in IMHO.
It would be better if the 2022 drop started from the top of the 2021 rise, so we could see the net change.
It would also be better if the Y axis was % of Jan 2021 value rather than absolute dollars. For stockholders a $10 drop on a $20 stock is a much bigger issue that a $20 drop of a $400 stock.
Funny-Bear t1_ixcppe2 wrote
What company is to the left of Meta?
thermidorthelobster t1_ixcq787 wrote
Maybe it’s just me but what does zero represent? What’s the baseline?
Savoy_Cabbage OP t1_ixcqw37 wrote
The scale is the change in market cap from 2020 to 2021, and from 2021 to 2022. Zero represents a $0 change in market cap.
e.g. 2020 market cap = 100, 2021 market cap = 150, 2022 market cap = 110; then 2021 change = +50, 2022 change = -40
Oddmob t1_ixfc9y7 wrote
You should put that in the image.
It says 2021 vs 2022. I assumed it was just the change between those two. I came to the comments to find out what the second bar was.
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Savoy_Cabbage OP t1_ixcvofm wrote
Because that's the only way to get a change in market cap? Subtract current year from previous year.
Puzzleheaded_Fox2357 t1_ixcwapo wrote
ohh wait no I see it now
I think the optical illusion was throwing me off I’ll see myself out
PM_ME_UR_SEAHORSE t1_ixcvkmc wrote
I think by subtracting the 2022 values from the 2021 ones you would get the change from 2020 to 2022
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magrilo2 t1_ixdhv2f wrote
It is all fantasy anyways. If all stocks are sold, the true value comes up.
feierlk t1_ixck3vf wrote
is the y-axis not flat or smth?
Alph4dan t1_ixd5dcg wrote
It’s the X axis, did you miss high school?
Asleep_Ninja_ t1_ixco9dq wrote
Now is a good time to buy stocks. They will all go up next year
ShutUpAndEatWithMe t1_ixd5vis wrote
Hard to believe it will, but hard to believe it wont
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uphillswapnil t1_ixctuas wrote
Whats the reason behind this fall?
ShutUpAndEatWithMe t1_ixd5u1t wrote
This podcast helped explain the nuance/history for me
f1sh-- t1_ixdherm wrote
Tesla is not a tech stock it is consumer discretionary.
PoopingIsAWorkout4Me t1_ixg4ikb wrote
It might be defined that way, but I disagree wholeheartedly. They’re not an auto manufacturer, they’re a tech company. Anyone can make an electric car, it’s how it’s presented and how the person engages with it.
Also, they’re literally in the Nasdaq 100, weighted between Alphabet and Nvidia, so while not technically a tech company, they are.
f1sh-- t1_ixgu2gx wrote
IMO that is their greatest trick male people trade it like a tech stock. It it’s all bollocks the primary interface is physical and hardware based. None of their services are virtual. Is Ford a tech stock, they use tech. You could argue that the software is tech but it’s like a small percent of the company. Majority is manufacturing.
Greedy-Knowledge6043 t1_ixdmaoc wrote
I have a very hard time classifying Tesla as a tech stock. Love to see Meta's decline. Hopefully that company gets wiped out entirely in the coming years.
Yahallo139 t1_ixdqn1s wrote
Is it because of the pandemic being over?
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TravelingSpermBanker t1_ixdr8oe wrote
Conclusion, the big 3 keep showing themselves as the cream of the crop
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ScotiaTheTwo t1_ixf5wok wrote
bad time to be invested in a risky tech-heavy pension fund eh?
echo_in t1_ixf7ue6 wrote
Can I get a ELI5 explanation of how this matches the corporate greed money vacuum story
Ambitious-Event-5911 t1_ixfqw1j wrote
Seems like a textbook market correction. The higher they went the lower they fell.
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Deja-Vuz t1_ixdl5dy wrote
Good to know. These big companies are stealing and shutting down the small local stores. Especially Amazon
ar243 t1_ixe12o5 wrote
Yeah, my local Microsoft store is driving all the mom and pop stores out of business.
PoopingIsAWorkout4Me t1_ixg4nnf wrote
That’s how it works. Microsoft and Amazon were once the little guys too. Then they got big because they adapted.
Deja-Vuz t1_ixgcinf wrote
You don't get it.
PoopingIsAWorkout4Me t1_ixhgqrd wrote
No, I’m afraid you don’t get it. Little companies, if they are successful, grow into big companies, by default, and they HAVE to eat their competition. Sorry you don’t like capitalism. Try making it work for you instead of crying about it.
Paululous t1_ixcg94h wrote
That's so trippy... I thought the x-axis was bent