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DazedWithCoffee t1_iyy7qi6 wrote

Reply to comment by corgis_are_awesome in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace

I’m not asking why. I’m wondering what the demand for this class of housing is, because this data on its own doesn’t really describe anything. Different demographics will have different intrinsic demands per capita, and I’m just asking the question.

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corgis_are_awesome t1_iyy7y7j wrote

The demand is through the roof, as evidenced by the fact that a single family home costs over a million dollars in CA…

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DazedWithCoffee t1_iyyaje0 wrote

That’s not necessarily a causal relationship. Come on, we’re on a data and science focused sub. I’m saying the picture here is incomplete. You can determine very little from this particular chart on its own. I’m suggesting that OP maybe correct for variable demand using some empirical data, which will paint a more interesting and complete picture. I don’t know anything about California. I’m not arguing it’s a perfect state, and I don’t know how what I’ve said could be misconstrued as such. I’m trying to be a good steward of the data, and prevent those with preconceived ideas of what this extremely specific datum means from misunderstanding or misrepresenting it. Honestly, touch some grass and then take a good look at this thread.

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LoveThieves t1_iyzwpxt wrote

There is “Always” a demand to live in a nice weather, protected area vs shitty weather, bad neighborhood but the issue is about long term investment and return.

Also “nice areas” don’t want new homes or type of multi family residences built around them and created ordinances to prevent it because it ruins their home values and creates more traffic, pollution and crime.

It’s a “I was here first” mentality to make sure an area stays protected and controls a market instead of letting the market decide on its own. Like socialism for the rich with gated communities and deciding the politics of a city versus the market.

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Big_Forever5759 t1_iyy9i9a wrote

Yeah, Americans in general have a fear of buying an apartment and more so in California. So everything is single family homes and sprawls of it.

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DazedWithCoffee t1_iyyb0hx wrote

You could argue that the data here says otherwise, given how incomplete this datum is. What if all the demand was fulfilled by high density housing? Now we both know that this isn’t the case, but that’s only because the homeless problem in. California is well documented.

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