Submitted by Willr0wH00d t3_zdnrss in dataisbeautiful
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Kangster1604 t1_iz2g9fu wrote
Now this is worthy work. I would love to see you expand this to golf, and lawn darts.
chemist612 t1_iz2h24e wrote
I feel like these times are not significantly different from each other (statistically speaking). I would love to see the control limits from the before and during (or even before vs end) to see if my visual intuition is correct.
carlos_6m t1_iz2k8lv wrote
It makes kind of sense that they're not different, solving a rubiks cube is done following a set of different move algorithms that after enough practice become muscle memory, so alcohol will only impair this very little, same way you can type almost as well sober as with a bit of alcohol, muscle memory will only fail you once you start to get pretty wasted
mburke6 t1_iz2mefg wrote
I'm reminded of Johnny Fever's alcohol reflex test when he was on-air at WKRP in Cincinnati.
jterwin t1_iz2ncsv wrote
Not individually, but I think the trend should be. There's enough points that it seems significant to me even though the it's only a slight increase.
ChezBoris t1_iz2x7nu wrote
This gives *some* evidence for the Ballmer Peak (but not a lot).
TommyTuttle t1_iz32q9w wrote
I like how the solve time improves again from .180% to… uh… the second .180% — the chart maker’s BAC tracks with the chart itself apparently 💁♂️
anotherorphan t1_iz3a79s wrote
first thing i thought of. i might be showing my age
NegativeCap1975 t1_iz3b7rn wrote
I wonder how much the increase in average time around 0.150% is due to increased BAC or simply mental fatigue from doing it so many times. How would this compare to 160 solves with no alcohol at all?
Extra_Intro_Version t1_iz3dtz7 wrote
Good point. This test needs to be randomized to avoid the confounding factors.
Trick_Study7766 t1_iz3m3rd wrote
Came here for this!
YouDontKnowMe74 t1_iz3my98 wrote
I don’t understand. How long did you wait between the shots? The alcohol would have to start affecting you first which isn’t really the case if you’re doing back to back shots.
AntiqueEconomist2018 t1_iz3ox9o wrote
How was BAC measured? Are you just estimating it?
momomosk t1_iz3qufn wrote
Also it’s an n=1 so we need a Rubik’s cube club or something for replication
1minatur t1_iz3qvnp wrote
Doesn't this show the opposite? He pretty consistently gets worse the higher the alcohol content
MufuckinTurtleBear t1_iz3rq7e wrote
There's a notable dip in completion time just beyond BAC 0.12%
1minatur t1_iz3ryfo wrote
The whole thing about the ballmer peak though is that performance is higher than when completely sober
MufuckinTurtleBear t1_iz3s18m wrote
That's not what the XKCD graph shows.
1minatur t1_iz3sbb1 wrote
That's exactly what it shows, 0 BAC has a lower performance level than at ~0.14
MufuckinTurtleBear t1_iz3ssf4 wrote
At the "Ballmer peak", yeah. Performance is lower than when sober everywhere except that point.
That's not the same as "performance always higher when drunk"
1minatur t1_iz3swud wrote
That isn't what I was saying. The Ballmer Peak specifically shows that performance at the peak is better than when completely sober. In OP's case, performance was only slightly better than the % above and below it, but still significantly worse than at 0
MufuckinTurtleBear t1_iz3tam8 wrote
The baseline/0 BAC is just over 14 seconds. The dip just beyond 0.12 is a smidgen beyond 10.
1minatur t1_iz3tm7y wrote
Single solve times have a lot of random variance, that could just be a random cube pattern that allowed him to skip several steps when solving. The average dips slightly at that point, but not below the beginning average
MufuckinTurtleBear t1_iz3tzfb wrote
Yes, which is why
> This gives *some* evidence for the Ballmer Peak (but not a lot).
Slight dip on the average. One exceptionally quick game. Not conclusive supporting evidence. Some evidence
bloodalchemy t1_iz40419 wrote
You need another test to extract the alcohol as the only variable. We need another 160 solves with a shot of water every 20. By comparing the two we can cancel out mind/finger fatigue from the results. Any time differences left should only be from the alcohol.
trollsmurf t1_iz4325r wrote
Oh seconds. I was going for hours.
Davyjoetee t1_iz43w3w wrote
It’s higher than ballmer but very cool to see. Very real phenomenon
Adamantiun t1_iz444ar wrote
"I swear I'm good to drive officer, just check my 3x3 solve time!"
acatterz t1_iz45np1 wrote
OP is solving in 12-15 seconds. At that level the algorithms required to solve the cube require some quick analysis of the cube faces at each stage to use the more optimal moves, particularly during the F2L stage. This involves quick mental visualisation to find the corners and matching edges to complete those first layers. I would have expected alcohol to have a bigger impact.
GoingMenthol t1_iz46ai8 wrote
So if I'm reading this correctly, you're less efficient between 0.150% and 0.180%, but slightly more efficient between 0.180% and... 0.180% again?
dogsnifel t1_iz47uy1 wrote
Not in this case since he’s just interested in how much the time changes not how fast he solves it.
MellifluousSussura t1_iz480gt wrote
What I’m hearing here is that I need to get very, very drunk for my finals. Or at least a little drunk. Tipsy. Slightly buzzed…
LOSTandCONFUSEDinMAY t1_iz493bk wrote
Yeah the differences are so small that if the y axis started at 0 all the details on the graph would become too small to see.
ShaunDark t1_iz4ae11 wrote
Maybe the difference could be explained by the taste left in his mouth after the shots.
FishyFrie t1_iz4frcj wrote
I also notice when only slightly drunk my brain tends to work a little faster in specific occasions.
E.g. I can write faster and more accurately on my phone when I've had a few beers.
ChezBoris t1_iz4gl1g wrote
Ballmer Peak is a joke AND this data is (mostly) a joke... but... the two fastest times in their dataset are at about 0.1% and 0.12% (which would show up as a peak).
udmh-nto t1_iz4ko1v wrote
Relative magnitude of the change is important. If time changes from 10 seconds to 10.1 seconds, it's not the same as time changing from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. If you don't include zero, you can scale the graphs to look the same.
Nathan-Stubblefield t1_iz4ko5v wrote
Do the math. Calculate the correlation, (r) and see if it is statistically significant. There is a confound between practice ir fatigue and the independent variable, so as another commenter says, repeat with shots of water instead of alcohol. And it still wouldn’t prove much, because it would be easy to influence the results one way or the other.
carlos_6m t1_iz4l6j8 wrote
In the end its all colours and shapes and op has reached up to 0.2% blood alcohol, which is the limit for driving in many places, I'd say up to that point it makes sense to see little change, it would be later on when I would expect to see impairment showing
You_Stole_My_Hot_Dog t1_iz4lemo wrote
Idk, you get to point where you literally don’t even think about it. I was never as good as OP (more in the 20-30s range), but even then there were algorithms that I can done so many thousands of times that I barely even needed to register that there was a pattern. Muscle memory kicks in and just takes care of it.
I haven’t been into it for the past few years, but once I stopped practicing daily, I’d do periodic “check-ins” to see if I still remembered how to solve it. At one point I had gone like 6 months without touching the cube, and was still able to easily solve it. I didn’t even quite remember what the algorithms were or what I was looking for, but muscle memory seems to remember for a lot longer lol. So it doesn’t surprise me that it doesn’t phase him much. Not unless he was really hammered.
FourierXFM t1_iz4of4d wrote
0.2% is nearly 3 times the limit for being intoxicated, which is commonly 0.08% in the US.
doobieman420 t1_iz4olej wrote
No, it gives no evidence. Not “not a lot of evidence”. Zero evidence. The “dip” (I wouldn’t call it that) you refer to is two, maybe 3, consecutive data points below the average. Would you call three consecutive coin flips coming up tails evidence of a biased coin? You also need to consider streakiness, warm-up time, all that good stuff. You aren’t as smart as you think you are. You completely misinterpreted that poor persons reply about the ballmer curve!
geek66 t1_iz4ownf wrote
Ha… well someone got the reference…
Complex-Tap-5716 t1_iz4pb90 wrote
Now this is the data we need
AwkwardDilemmas t1_iz4uecs wrote
Not continuous data, misrepresented graphing.
x_AdSF_x t1_iz4xmxc wrote
Being someone who solves around 15secs, the difference between 20/30 secs vs 12 is abysmal. Yes, one can do the last layer without thinking even a bit, but f2l takes quite a lot of focus at OP's level
Yes, he'd be always able to solve it under ~25secs due to muscle memory, but to keep it that consistent is impressive
tantalizingthoughts t1_iz52a8r wrote
What liquor did you use?
jsvannoord t1_iz54lsn wrote
And 0.05% is the most common limit worldwide. I don’t think anywhere is at 0.2%.
jsvannoord t1_iz54wj5 wrote
Accurate BAC devices are readily available and fairly affordable.
I-Pop-Bubbles t1_iz58rhe wrote
Interesting experiment and results. As a bit of constructive feedback on the data visualization, I would say that the actual solve times should be points instead of a continuous line. The avg solve time is fine as a line, though.
ABahRunt t1_iz58shj wrote
This is exactly what i was thinking about too! Need more granular shots to prove it. IV schnapps anyone?
a_boy_called_sue t1_iz5alqq wrote
Shouldn't this be a scatter graph? 🤔
Sahih t1_iz5b003 wrote
To me, evidence of a 'Ballmer peak' would be any evidence of high performance. If this was the only study, which for the comments it is, I would say this leads to an idea that the 'Ballmer peak' is on average slightly lower skill level at the point, but a larger standard deviation of skill level, leading to occasional brilliance while consistent performance is slightly worse than at 0.
I haven't looked up what the actual 'hypothesis' of the Ballmer peak is, but this shows that some elements of high performance could exist and that kind of thing leads to rumors, plus fun experimentation.
Macrophage87 t1_iz5cmwi wrote
But they really measure breath alcohol content rather than blood. There can occasionally be some discrepancy.
jsvannoord t1_iz5gzhj wrote
I think it’s safe to assume OP didn’t draw 160 blood samples.
Strykerz3r0 t1_iz5h0ds wrote
Ah, yes. Otherwise known as 'The Doctor Johnny Fever' effect.
dml997 t1_iz5is9v wrote
He was drunk when he made the last two points.
Cremaster166 t1_iz5wulq wrote
That doesn’t even count as slightly tipsy. Do it again and drink more!
Edit: never mind, the UOM was per cent. Well done! 👍
Willr0wH00d OP t1_iz5x2s3 wrote
.18% is over two times the legal driving limit haha. I was having a hard time talking and walking- muscle memory just works in strange ways
Outrageous_History87 t1_iz61umd wrote
It usually takes me 5 minutes or so to do a Rubiks Cube. Extrapolating, my BAC was probably 456%.
Never argue with the data.
Cremaster166 t1_iz61xlj wrote
What got me is that we use ‰ in Finland. Anything over 0,15% is pretty respectable 😄
carlos_6m t1_iz6h7f1 wrote
Yeah I think I'm getting it mixed up with alcohol on breath levels maybe?
jsvannoord t1_iz6ot6q wrote
Not sure. The BAC monitor I have reads breath and gives a blood alcohol percentage reading but I can’t speak to all models.
Kangster1604 t1_izccvno wrote
I think you are my spirit animal
gremlinbro t1_izf84zg wrote
This is what I'm here for.
gremlinbro t1_izf8mwh wrote
Yeah OP can you get drunk and solve an additional N = 1000 cubes?
Willr0wH00d OP t1_iz2ddiq wrote
I have solved many Rubik's cubes in my life. I have also had a good amount of alcohol in my life. Of course I have done the occasional solve while intoxicated, but I have always wondered how exactly the amount of alcohol in my system would impact my timed solves.
The experiment was simple. 160 solves with a shot of 90 proof liquor at each interval of 20. Starting with a control group before anything took effect and ending with an extra 20 solves, not wanting to drink anymore, were the only variations in my alcohol consumption. All data was tracked by csTimer and put into Excel in order to make a nice graph the day after.
The results were pretty straightforward. Times, as expected, worsened and varied more as more alcohol entered my bloodstream. Below are a few stats from the session. For reference, I average about 12.5.
Best Time: 10.29 (Solve 72)
Best Ao5: 11.52 (Solves 37-41)
Best Ao12: 12.30 (Solves 27-38)
Worst Time: 23.91 (Solve 107)
Worst Ao5: 17.36 (Solves 140-144)
Worst Ao12: 15.36 (Solves 138-149)
Feel free to ask any questions. This was fun! Would not do it again.