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HunterrZ_YT t1_j2clve6 wrote

You should try comparing Dohas airport to Atlanta's airport. Atlanta being one of the most busy in the world and the world cup being held in Qatar.

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thexylom OP t1_j2cm05u wrote

That is a cool idea! Fun fact: we are actually based in Atlanta.

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Morangatang t1_j2e2cd1 wrote

Atlanta is the busiest airport in the world and I am always shocked by that fact.

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HunterrZ_YT t1_j2e9gfn wrote

Yeah, considering it's not that big a city (compared to some others)

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StringBean_GreenBean t1_j2efoeu wrote

Compared to what? The Atlanta metro area is the 7th largest in the US and 69th in the world.

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macsters t1_j2eifvl wrote

True, Atlanta is a sizable city, but I guess people wouldn’t have thought that the 1st busiest airport would be in the 69th largest city.

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HunterrZ_YT t1_j2ek9v7 wrote

I didn't say it's not big, I just said that it's smaller compared to some other cities. You'd expect Las Angeles' LAX to be at the top, or close. Above Atlanta at least

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jpj77 t1_j2ffxfs wrote

LAX has the Pacific Ocean to constrict its traffic. Pretty much every other large city in the US has two airports at least besides Philly and Boston which are fairly close to New York. Next biggest city with only one is Detroit, which is also a very busy airport.

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MitchMcConnellsJowls t1_j2c1bt9 wrote

So, uh, what's an 'enplaned passenger'

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thexylom OP t1_j2c1x3g wrote

A passenger who gets on a plane haha

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insultant_ t1_j2chizo wrote

Fuck getting in the plane. I’m getting IN then plane. Let Evel Kneival get on the plane.

EDIT: goddamn autocorrect ruined my life!

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Smidday90 t1_j2cwswk wrote

I see what you tried to do but didn’t

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rumblepony247 t1_j2dmp7r wrote

Kinda the Reddit comment equivalent of excitedly telling a great joke, but forgetting parts of it and then having to go back in the joke's time-line, lol.

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mcfc_4eva t1_j2ccvs8 wrote

Was also my question. Thank you for taking the bullet

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Berkamin t1_j2d1oal wrote

I have never heard the term 'enplaned' in my entire life, and I've been around for several decades. Don't they mean 'boarded' or 'on-boarded'?

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miskathonic t1_j2d4hbu wrote

Emplaned sounds like an industry word, but maybe OP just made it up 🤷

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wattro t1_j2dfrps wrote

Perhaps 'deplaned' is more common?

I hear that one on occasion.

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rabbitlion t1_j2dj7c1 wrote

Deplaned is usually not used for passengers just getting off a plane though. Deplaning a passenger typically refers to throwing them off the plane before takeoff because they're behaving badly.

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wrongwayup t1_j2dozer wrote

It’s nice to have an equal number of both. Like “takeoffs” and “landings”

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markth_wi t1_j2dulsz wrote

I have to imagine numbers skew at the edges, people die or are born on planes.

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King_in-the_North t1_j2dk59d wrote

In the industry an enplaned passenger is a passenger that gets on an airplane at a specific airport. A deplaned passenger is one that gets off at a specific airport. Generally when comparing places against each other enplaned passengers are the metric that everyone looks to.

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ClaffeyLP t1_j2cmykj wrote

Didn’t expect my home airport to show up in data is beautiful. Just being from Indy this is a fascinating graph.

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Lord_of_the_Canals t1_j2cewzw wrote

I’d appreciate a more upfront legend, otherwise I like it! Crazy to think about purely by pop up with Hong Kong at 7mil and Indianapolis at 800K..

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thexylom OP t1_j2cf9rs wrote

Will do better next time! Yes, it's insane that HKG was the 8th largest passenger airport in 2018, and then it just shrunk to something barely resembling a mid-sized regional airport

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svjersey t1_j2d2w14 wrote

Wonder what they are doing with that massive airport of theirs. Been through it a few times pre covid and it was always fun walking around it waiting for your connection.

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thexylom OP t1_j2d4txr wrote

Been back there a few times since COVID, it's... Not holding up well

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DoBestWifWtGodGivesU t1_j2e7ooz wrote

Was there in October, all the shops including restaurants were closed indefinitely inside the departure area, hope things will goes back to normal soon!

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TinKicker t1_j2d9jsc wrote

Don’t forget the HKG is the central hub of two regional airlines and a major international airline (Cathay Pacific).

While IND is home to a Delta Air Lines regional affiliate (Republic), it doesn’t serve as a hub to the flight operations, but merely the corporate headquarters.

How Cathay Pacific is surviving today is a total mystery to me.

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Clishlaw t1_j2dcfl4 wrote

Cathay survives cause they are owned by SwireAlso they basically Monopolized the Air Cargo Biz throughout covid into HK. If companies are using their planes for Air Cargo; they still own the Cargo Terminal that processes everything entering and exiting. As well as owning the maintenance company; where a lot of airlines outside HK fly over to do their work.

On top of all the cost cutting they did to their staff; including, but not limited to, closing Dragonair outright. Most employees found out their company disappeared when they couldn't get into the building.

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Daniero1994 t1_j2dkwf6 wrote

Which would make both airports transport ~50% of city's population pre COVID.

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Dheorl t1_j2dgxy8 wrote

Why Indianapolis as the point of comparison?

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thexylom OP t1_j2dincl wrote

The writer is a Ph.D. candidate at the Indiana University School of Medicine. Indianapolis is the closest airport to where she lives

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brawler839 t1_j2cse54 wrote

These are definitely correlated, but there is probably no common single factor other than COVID-19. Especially considering (I don't think) Indianapolis and Hong Kong have ever had a direct flight connection. So while each data set may be interesting on it's own, or grouped in a larger data set, the two, directly compared, don't really make sense together.

The most interesting thing about this graph, is that a large transportation hub like Hong Kong has basically barely recovered, in comparison to a smaller hub like Indianapolis. However, looking at the data provided before COVID-19, it looks like airport shutdowns in general cause major disruption and there could be a multitude of reasons why a place like Hong Kong may have (and continue to have) lower air travel traffic volumes, especially 2 years after an event like "protests".

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petertotheolson t1_j2cut1n wrote

I think your second paragraph is in line with what OP was going for. Doesn’t seem to be anything from them trying to draw a larger connection. Absolutely wild that HK is only operating at 1/6th of its precovid traffic.

OP, it would be interesting to see if any other SE Asian cities became transit hubs in the meantime, or if in general the world is still in the first steps of recovery.

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thexylom OP t1_j2c0t39 wrote

Source article: https://www.thexylom.com/post/china-s-zero-covid-policy-is-destructive-but-reopening-without-a-plan-is-even-worse

Source data: https://www.ind.com/about/investors-financials-reports/airline-activity-reports; https://www.hongkongairport.com/en/the-airport/hkia-at-a-glance/fact-figures.page

Tool used: Datawrapper

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Fedquip t1_j2cz462 wrote

Great reminder that Hong Kong was going through some intense pro democracy protests before Covid. All that seems to have swept away

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thexylom OP t1_j2czdtd wrote

Yup, the author of the source article is born and raised in Hong Kong

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SPY0p t1_j2dxrte wrote

Indianapolis has always been the canary in the international travel coal mine.

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cheesoid t1_j2dho20 wrote

Until I saw this post I'd never heard of the word "enplaned".

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glaswegiangorefest t1_j2dic7y wrote

> enplaned

Neither had I and when I google it I get the word 'emplane' which also sounds made up so I don't know what the hell is going on. If someone is about to tell me enplaned is the past tense of emplane or something then they can just fuck off.

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42Cobras t1_j2dn0ai wrote

How I wish I'd been on one of those planes to/from Indiana last January. Go Dawgs!

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thexylom OP t1_j2do0yc wrote

Unfortunately, our editor is a Techie...

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Galaksee t1_j2fgpuj wrote

What the hell is, "enplaned?"

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RemoteTraditional142 t1_j2eu0px wrote

Wow, Covid affected aviation????. never heard this before, genius you should publish a paper or two, ground breaking scientific research going on here.

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obinice_khenbli t1_j2edg0f wrote

It's so sad what happened to Hong Kong. May that great nation rest in peace.

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AsianEscapeGoat t1_j2fmzq2 wrote

jesus christ, it was never a nation...it's was a fucking colony

fucking colonizer apologist

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nuonuopapa t1_j2fu64d wrote

The people who block airports, whether for climate change or human rights, should be sent straight to jail.

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Alex15can t1_j2cbe3x wrote

Uh not really beautiful when it takes me 3 minutes to figure it out.

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riceybois t1_j2cefah wrote

sounds like a you problem, not the post’s

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