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SkepticITS t1_izrzrpn wrote
Weird. Also, rankings have been updated every month or two for the entire period. We have maybe 8x as many data points available as have been plotted.
AllanNavarro t1_izscq22 wrote
and teams change so much in 4 years. Morocco might’ve been 41 in 2018 but they were 22 coming into this tournament. Totally changes the message of the graph.
clusten t1_izul1fr wrote
Also, semifinalists, not quarterfinalist (Portugal, England, Brasil and Netherlands not in the chart)
zeoNoeN t1_izsb7tb wrote
This sub is called data is beautiful, not boilerplate ggplot. This belongs more into r/soccer, as the visualization is boring and the data doesn't tell clever story.
stochasticlid t1_izsp42h wrote
Not OP, but what would be a more interesting World Cup related visualization you would have liked to see?
wakinget t1_izt8hgh wrote
Using data from this year would be a start.
snakesoup88 t1_izv59bi wrote
Unnecessary animation.
/s
zeoNoeN t1_izt80z6 wrote
Anything using real time field position would be awesome, but the data engineering needed to get this data probably makes it unrealistic
stochasticlid t1_j11kn56 wrote
Where would you source this data? Sounds like a huge proprietary data investment
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IslamDunk t1_izt7plb wrote
This makes a lot more sense
JDDW t1_izrjume wrote
I want to see Morocco win just because they're the last team anyone would've expected to win
randomthad69 t1_izthhd9 wrote
The last team anyone expected to win was the toon squad in space jam
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Corposjuh t1_izrpd94 wrote
I don't. I think the team deserves it but the fans whistling all game long when the opponent has posession ruins watching the game
ayn_rando t1_izs0nuu wrote
Did you watch the 2010 world cup? Have you heard of vuvuzelas? Dude, give me whistling any time.
Aelhas t1_izt6m0h wrote
As a member of the whistlers gang I was deeply impressed by vuvuzela.
Maniglioneantipanico t1_izs4sw6 wrote
Lol that happens every time. Football hooligans are full of shitheads, no matter the nationality
Medium-Statement-489 t1_izs517w wrote
This guy doesn’t watch football.
B_Boll t1_izrz3tv wrote
So, the fans support the team? The audacitty!!
Corposjuh t1_izrzp3r wrote
Cheering for a team or whistling against a team are two different actions. They are the only team whistling against opponents, really sad.
Maniglioneantipanico t1_izs4ve7 wrote
They are quite literally not the only team doing thatlol. Plus supporters=/team
Saadieman t1_izssk8r wrote
Lmao, go watch golf or something. This is basically like saying, I don't like football because the goalie is allowed to use his hands
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GlasgowRangers22 t1_izs1d0j wrote
Tell me your American without telling me your American.
Corposjuh t1_izs3xwm wrote
Not American, sorry to disappoint
PreviousImpression28 t1_izsf9ru wrote
Then you really have bigger things to cry about
BlackEyedAngel01 t1_izrh9c4 wrote
Semifinals
Nice data. Interesting to see how Argentina and France have been consistent powerhouses while Croatia and Monaco have had ups and downs
theonereveli t1_izrnsma wrote
It's Morocco
BlackEyedAngel01 t1_izsvmrt wrote
Auto correct hates me!
halibfrisk t1_izsdmji wrote
Croatia joined FIFA in 1992 - the early low ranking reflects they were new to the ranking system rather than performance.
(Prior to independence in 1991 Croatia was part of Yugoslavia)
snjevka t1_izrz2xp wrote
Croatia has been at war in the first part of this graph, and later is pretty consistent I would say.
inthedrink t1_izssci2 wrote
You and your wild excuses
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OldExperience8252 t1_izze7md wrote
Mid 00s is seen as a disaster time in France though lol.
BastardChicken1 t1_izrs8yx wrote
0 is actually not at the top of the Y-axis?
I’m sorry, that’s a down vote from me, dataisNOTbeautiful.
wayToGoPotato t1_izs4ai0 wrote
I cannot tell if you’re joking or serious!
BastardChicken1 t1_izs4eyh wrote
Dead serious.
There is space above the 0 on the Y-axis. Big no-no. It gives the impression of there being a possibility of going below (literally above in this case) 0.
Dontknowhowtolife t1_izsb77h wrote
It's also ridiculous that 0 is the top value when the ranking goes to 1, not 0
PreviousImpression28 t1_izsfk6h wrote
This is the real reason why I hate this graph. It should be a 1, not a 0.
BastardChicken1 t1_izsfxr2 wrote
Yep, that’s another one.
PuttingAround t1_izrhyt7 wrote
What the hell happened in Croatia
Maguncia t1_izrmvm8 wrote
It came into existence.
Biggerleg t1_izrj73s wrote
Most of the Balkans were involved in Wars of independence/With eachother during the early 90s.
PuttingAround t1_izrjebl wrote
Oh yeah I forgot about that little part of history.
So were they good at soccer before too or?
Biggerleg t1_izrk40z wrote
Well the Yugoslavian team that preceded them was pretty decent. They were runners up in the Euros a few times and had some knockout stage appearances in the WC.
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goxxerjones t1_izrn0wu wrote
What does England look like on there?
lllllll______lllllll t1_izrs2ri wrote
Sorry, England is out of the picture.
CyborgBee t1_izrxk1a wrote
Would be on average a little above Croatia (without the massive climb on the right that Croatia had after becoming independent). Nearly always top 20, often top 10, rarely top 5 until recently
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TheBerg974 OP t1_izrgbnb wrote
Source: https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/tadhgfitzgerald/fifa-international-soccer-mens-ranking-1993now
Tools: Python Plotnine Library
stochasticlid t1_izsp9r5 wrote
How do you like this plotnine lib?
TheBerg974 OP t1_izsqtvi wrote
Pretty new to using it, but it's nice if you like to work with ggplot
GoodAndBluts t1_izt3vnv wrote
Looks like this is semifinalists
100PercentChansey t1_izsvlpp wrote
God damn why did Croatia explode in like 1992?
Calgar77 t1_izswzl8 wrote
cause they didn't exist as a country before then
LarryCraigSmeg t1_iztpp8d wrote
Because they were literally exploding from 1991-1992 (and war continued until 1995)
tommytornado t1_izswwqs wrote
Current rankings are 3,4,12 and 22
si1versmith t1_izt3onr wrote
You know your can correct the y axis to say start from 1, not zero
This chart is not beautiful
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I'd like to see the 'then rankings' of the 'then SFinalists' for every WC.
Would be fun to see where all lower ranked teams did well kn an average...
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redsterXVI t1_izss135 wrote
It's the first time an African country made it to the quarter finals ever
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TurbanD00med t1_izsog7k wrote
I like the idea, but could do one that uses the football ELO rankings? They tend to be more accurate less random then Fifa's official ones
perrrperrr t1_izstfs0 wrote
The 2022 World Cup and honor don't go together.
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ElegantUse69420 t1_izt56yv wrote
Let's not count the year leading up to and including COVID. Totally skews the data.
Germanicus7 t1_izt6uex wrote
I don't know how we didn't drop out of the top 12 in 2010 considering we missed the world cup that year.
LookAround-blog t1_iztbpu5 wrote
Given the complete unpredictability of the current championship, this data will hardly help those who place bets with backmakers. I won't be too surprised if Morocco becomes world champion this time.
thecrgm t1_iztem3z wrote
how tf did france go down to 25
TyoRim t1_iztgwbb wrote
Stupid graphic. France won the world cup in 2018 and was ranked 1st for a while... We don't see the team under rank 5...
showmeyourlagunitas t1_izv69m2 wrote
There’s lower effort content out there - but not by much.
Low_Independence_837 t1_izrw968 wrote
Why is only up to 2018? Ranking up until later this year is widely available, no reason to exclude it.