bsnimunf t1_j0q958h wrote on December 18, 2022 at 4:50 PM

Reply to comment by UsrHpns4rctct in [OC] World Cup 2022 : Evolution of the probabilities of winning the world cup according to the bookmakers by TheKitof

England never go into a world cup thinking they are the best. That is the most ridiculous shit I have ever heard. They are world class professional players who play in the premier League and champions league against the best players in the world they know exactly the quality of player and teams they are facing and know that even if you are the best your going to have to fight tooth and nail to even get to the semis.

If anything the fans have a generally pessimistic attitude.

UsrHpns4rctct t1_j0ry3ez wrote on December 18, 2022 at 11:30 PM

They are a few good players that are being hyped into insanity because of their passport (Kane is a great example of that). Just as any similarly good player are discredited because they are not british, playing in EPL.

It's also interesting that the expectation (that you put forward) for such a team is semi-finals in a World Cup. It was a wonder (esp. with Southgate) that they got to the last EC-final. A semi (in WC) for England is possible but surely not where they realistically is going to be.

bsnimunf t1_j0tarvt wrote on December 19, 2022 at 6:26 AM

I don't put forward an expectation I merely pointed out that even the most highly ranked teams have to work very hard to make it to the semis to illustrate the high standard of sport the is played in the world cup and that the players and teams know that so I doubt any team is going in with an inflated ego. Also last world cup England got to the semis so in terms of results Southgate is probably the best performing England manager since 66.