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chillord t1_j0tr747 wrote

Reply to comment by Corposjuh in [OC] Messi v. Ronaldo: Running Total of Goals Scored in World Cup Appearances by Metalytiq

This. The goal stat in this world cup felt really meaningless. I heard countless moderators repeat how many goals Messi scored and I just couldn't take it anymore. Argentina got an exceptional amount of penalties which all went to Messi. I don't know where he would place, but if we would remove all penalties from the goal count, Messi wouldn't be near the top positions for most amount of goals in this world cup.

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nightb4xmas t1_j0ujzns wrote

actually, if PKs didn't count, Messi still had 3 goals plus 3 assists, which would have placed him 4th (instead of 2nd). that is most certainly still "near the top".

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chillord t1_j0um3my wrote

He would be joint 4th with 6 other players. These 6 other players all didn't make it to the final and we're KOed as early as the round of 16 (Morata).

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nightb4xmas t1_j0upkm7 wrote

So many flaws in this argument. He'd be ranked 4th overall, not joint, based on number of assists. Also the stat isn't # of goals through the Round of 16, it's total. His efforts helped his team advance for more opportunities to score. It's also more difficult to score in later knockout stage matches as the caliber of team played is increased.

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chillord t1_j0uqw16 wrote

Are you even reading? I talked about the goals, not about any scoring points. You made this about assists which is something I never talked about. I talked about the goal top list. So don't build a strawman please.

And second Messi scored the same amount of goals as someone who only played half the amount of games. It's a lot less impressive.

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