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Kileni t1_j2ngu1o wrote

3-4 chapters a day will do it in a year. I prefer reading it chronologically. A worldview and life changer, especially in an age that has no standards for right/wrong, good/evil, etc.

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EVMad t1_j2nmbvl wrote

Definitely. I’ll quote the great Issac Asimov:

“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”

Everyone should read it and understand it.

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Ukvemsord t1_j2nn38j wrote

Job is a great book!

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EVMad t1_j2no58r wrote

Old Testament is full of good stuff. Lots of good cherry picking to be had, Leviticus is awesome if you want to hate people for no good reason other than your own prejudices.

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igotnocandyforyou t1_j2pztzm wrote

A time someone complains about their life I give them a little Job. It's my Christian non Christian way of saying stfu.

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trail34 t1_j2rusgy wrote

Wait - so someone tells you they are going through a difficult time, and you respond by telling them to go read a tale about a dude who has his family killed by a cosmic authority who is trying to test his loyalty? That’s messed up. Responding to anyone’s concerns with “well at least it’s not…” is cold and dismissive.

Instead try treating people the way you’d like to be treated.

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igotnocandyforyou t1_j2rx93q wrote

It depends. 99% of the complaining I hear are from people at work or small talk situations and bs complaints. Complaining about first world problems are a slap in the face to those living in poverty. They get the Book of Job talk. For your view of the bible, you sound like someone who enjoys the tale about causality - causality, the invisible force for those who think they are scientific - worship. Are you telling me that you have seen cause? (Though I doubt you've thoroughly read David Hume'sTreatise and the Enquiry). Further, you think the bible can only be read as either absolute truth or as a lie. The Bible is very useful as a set of allegories. The hyperbole of Job is perfect for people who just like to complain... like bitches like you. No. My response follows a line of, (age dependant)"Do you need immediate medical attention? What's your plan to fix the situation? What part of this situation are you responsible for? What's going on that you have to be grateful for? How you been in a similar situation and survived? Do you just need yo talk? Etc.

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trail34 t1_j2rxwej wrote

> like bitches like you

Classy. Again I’d suggest you take a look at how you engage with fellow humans.

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threeboats t1_j2pmyhd wrote

Yeah what we need is a book that endorses slavery, burning people alive, and stoning people to death. And killing family members if they don't follow the same religion.

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Kileni t1_j2pthup wrote

You may want to read it before summarizing it.

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So_I_read_a_thing t1_j2s53e4 wrote

I've read it. Multiple times. What's wrong with the summary? A religion cannot be both good, and allow for rape, murder, genocide, and slavery. No amount of time changes that.

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Kileni t1_j2tymds wrote

You’ve read what multiple times? Just want to make sure I understand. The whole Bible?

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threeboats t1_j2u9cet wrote

How can you reply to my message, as though you understood what I wrote, unless you've read every comment I've ever made?

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So_I_read_a_thing t1_j2wdj4m wrote

Yes. The old testament & the king James version. As well as the apicrypha.

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Kileni t1_j30asfj wrote

Interesting I’m surprised by your summary. Not at all what I got. Here’s another take if interested. https://bibleproject.com/explore/video/the-story-of-the-bible/

Honestly if your sincere so could wish we could talk for a bit in person. Stuff like this tends to go it’s worst online.

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So_I_read_a_thing t1_j3262kj wrote

Thank you for the offer. I am not interested. Your faith is your business. Mine, or lack thereof, is mine.

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Ukvemsord t1_j2nilm5 wrote

Starting at the OT or NT?

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jcddyer OP t1_j2p5v49 wrote

The visualization is reading through in the traditional (Protestant) order, but the site lets you reorder in several different ways, including chronologically, using Hebrew order, OT/NT overlap, etc.

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Otherwise_Extent_545 t1_j2nmzy1 wrote

If they’re reading chronologically based on when books were written, they’ll start with Job.

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jcddyer OP t1_j2rtw9l wrote

Most chronological reading plans put Job after the proto-history of Genesis 1-11. Here's what this plan does.

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Kileni t1_j2nkmlw wrote

3.3 chapters per day will get you through the whole Bible in a year, Old Testament plus New Testament.

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Purphect t1_j2slzzt wrote

Right and wrong/good and evil are instinctual moral compasses influenced by culture. You do not need religion to know how to act. That’s part of learning and developing as a human in a society.

I can understand you having that feeling or view due to how much information is accessible to us these days.

I only mention this because I don’t want you to have the false premise that morality and good is solely derived from a religion. I’m not religious at all and the most important thing to me is being a good guy and generally being an altruistic member of society. The human race can continue to make some really cool discoveries if we work together. I know religion tells us we have the answers to the world, but I don’t agree and am jealous of the future generations that hopefully get to know more about the universe than we do now.

Edit: spelling

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Kileni t1_j2tz1ew wrote

How many cultures would you say exist? What happens when they collide? Whose standards do we use?

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Purphect t1_j2ureh3 wrote

There are probably thousands of cultures across the land sharing a vast majority of their ethics. I guarantee the vast majority of culture includes many altruistic ideas of coming together.

When two cultures with opposing ideas come together or collide, the victor’s culture often takes over. Sometimes integrating aspects of both.

Christianity is a great example of a religion that contains pieces of other religions before they splintered over time. Many religions share aspects because they’ve evolved with different groups into completely different systems of beliefs.

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Kileni t1_j2useg0 wrote

Watch the news or travel. There are wars going on today that challenge your views.

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