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HungryLikeTheWolf99 t1_j30n9re wrote

While this was one of the most important scientific observations in history, I still don't know why we're listening to this bastard who knows nothing.

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Empty_Insight t1_j312zav wrote

As with a great many things in history, it took a colossal effort to convince people of what think now as an obvious truth: "Poopy water bad."

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Jedimasteryony t1_j31vm3g wrote

Day one of public health class, from my wife who is a veterinarian: “wash your hands and don’t eat poop.”

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zelonhusk t1_j31m1tz wrote

Reminds me of Ignaz Semmelweis: Doctors should wash their hands

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StuartGotz t1_j344nwt wrote

They're making a reference to the Game of Thrones' character also named John Snow.

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wolfden1130 OP t1_j30nq1y wrote

Who exactly, Simon Rogers?

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Yossarian216 t1_j30pg6m wrote

It’s a game of thrones reference, there’s a character named Jon Snow who is repeatedly told by his girlfriend that he knows nothing.

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wolfden1130 OP t1_j30q7ec wrote

It's late, went right over my head, haha

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Yossarian216 t1_j30qbp5 wrote

I just figured you maybe hadn’t seen it, it was popular but there are still billions of people who never watch it, lucky souls.

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LanewayRat t1_j32a734 wrote

You left out an important detail — he was a bastard.

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Yossarian216 t1_j332abg wrote

That’s important to the Westorosi types, the wildlings didn’t give two shits about it

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LanewayRat t1_j33nkoi wrote

But I’m Westerosi!

No, just actually saying, for OP’s benefit, that it’s why the comment says “bastard”

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InsuranceToTheRescue t1_j32ve27 wrote

Fun fact: The two actors got married IRL.

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Yossarian216 t1_j332vok wrote

I know, he played an amazing prank on her using a prop severed head of his character, he left it in the fridge on a plate and when she opened it she freaked out

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CleanDataDirtyMind t1_j30wdo7 wrote

Fun fact, while they knew there was clustering it was two deviations that drove the "proof" home it was the water pumps. One was the absence of cases at the brewery RIGHT next door, where the workers would not drink the water but beer after the fermentation process. And the case on Coventry street, that had no obvious association until the household was interviewed and the lady who had risen in station and lived there turned out to originally be from the neighborhood and insisted that water be brought from that pump because she thought it tasted better. So it was hypothesis, analysis, visualization and thick data investigation.

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schroedingerx t1_j3139iz wrote

The Broad Street Pump (now moved somewhat from its original location) was the very first thing my wife wanted to see on her first trip to London.

Travel with science nerds. It’s the best.

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mangotangy t1_j315nyk wrote

When I last visited London, I went to see the pump and dragged my friend along. I thought it was the coolest thing ever, and my friend gave me that ‘are you kidding me’ look

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Adthay t1_j33b9ed wrote

The real one is being kept in warehouse 13 that's just a replica

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johnjmcmillion t1_j317a27 wrote

"Don't shit where you drink."

- King in the North

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ShazbotSimulator2012 t1_j30ru72 wrote

Does it not look correct for anyone else?

Viewing it on a W10 PC in Chrome, and every circle is the same size when the article says they should be scaled by death count, and the water pumps themselves aren't appearing on the map, so it's less clear than the original

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BeamMeUpBiscotti t1_j30wuxz wrote

> Does it not look correct for anyone else?

Also broken for me on W10 Firefox

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wolfden1130 OP t1_j30osd7 wrote

The full Guardian piece on the history and map can be found here. Really interesting to see the bars and graphic style chosen by Snow that so beautifully captures the data and trend

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talligan t1_j31avri wrote

I'm a contaminant hydrogeologist and this was one of the first ever cases linking water contamination of microbes (though they didn't know this at the time) with illness. He's also considered the father of epidemiology.

There's a great book on the story: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36086.The_Ghost_Map

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kristo456 t1_j32emnx wrote

I'm glad someone recommended this book. My wife is a microbiologist and I am....not. pretty far from it. However we both were able to enjoy this book thoroughly

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Lost_In_MI t1_j31kcj3 wrote

I have this book on my bookshelf. Thrift store find. Absolutely fascinating read.

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FlatRobots t1_j30vp0n wrote

My statistics professor loved this example of applied statistics and I agree that it's impressive. You don't need to know anything about diseases to see that there's something going on at this water pump.

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shillyshally t1_j30me4m wrote

This was mentioned tangentially in an episode of In Our Time covering the Great Stink of 1858.

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Roflbot_FPV t1_j3115nu wrote

I posted a video about this very topic during covid and was downvoted to death. 🤣

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JessGI5 t1_j319ljs wrote

It’s the first known use of GIS too.

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alemango2 t1_j31auvv wrote

Only knew about him because Extra Credits made videos about him back when they used to be good, pretty amazing and determined guy ngl, scientific community pretty much put obstacle after obstacle to go agaist him and he still proved them wrong in every situation.

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