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CyborgBee t1_j6hf6oj wrote

To take Djokovic as an example, he has 22 slams and 17 losses to other big 3 players at slams. So I'm guessing maybe 35 slam wins for him if the others didn't exist, and he's nowhere near finished either. Could've been 40.

Murray has 20 losses to the big 3 at slams, almost all of which were in the semis or final, and 3 titles. He also destroyed his body trying to compete with the big 3 and would likely have had a longer career as a top player without them. He would've had a real shot at Sampras' record and being the GOAT if they all didn't exist.

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Dragon-Ash t1_j6hnf41 wrote

Hard agree on this. He was this close to being an all-time great, except he happened to live in an era of not one, not two, but three all-time greats. If any one of the Big Three aren't around, I think Murray has double-digit grand slams. He lost in 10 semi-final matches, 8 of which were to one of the Big Three (the other two: Wawrinka and Roddick. No freebies anywhere).

Murray winning Wimbledon was one of my favorite tennis moments of my life, and I'm not even British.

Agassi won 8 grand slams. He probably should have had at least 12 if he had taken tennis & fitness more seriously earlier in his career. How many AOs did he leave on the table by not even playing?

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