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jakart3 t1_j40rykj wrote

Not American ; what's ballot? How it's work? Why not just simple vote?

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toototabonappetit t1_j40sa45 wrote

AFAIK they indeed voted, but the results did not determine a clear representative.

It is my understanding that it is not only needed the majority of the votes, but it has to exceed a specific number. That's why it was done multiple times.

ETA: not American either, so I expect someone to correct me.

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crepuscularmutiny t1_j40vro2 wrote

A ballot is another word for a vote, specifically its the piece of paper you wrote it on, though it's not literal since these votes are electronic. A simple majority was all that was needed, but Democrats voted uniformly for their own candidate and republicans had enough republican rebels against their most popular candidate that they couldn't secure a simple majority of votes.

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Tyrannical1 t1_j412osd wrote

Everyone’s making a big deal out of it taking 15 votes this time around…

Isn’t it more concerning that the 435 people we elect to collectively represent us and our wildly diverse needs and opinions rarely requires more than one vote to obtain a majority?

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beenoc t1_j415r2j wrote

Don't forget that the makeup of Congress is known 2 months before they actually are sworn in and vote for Speaker. The meetings and discussions don't start when the voting starts, they start the Wednesday morning in the second week of November.

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TattooHelpPlease2 t1_j41628l wrote

Yes, I prefer this. This is actual democracy at work, and representatives making a splash as opposed to just going along with what's expected. Some good concessions were achieved by holding out against this establishment Republican.

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TheBlooDred t1_j41co4h wrote

I hope this doesnt mean a civil war is next year

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ExploratoryCucumber t1_j41e3a9 wrote

I sure do hope the GOP gets around to collapsing before they go for their next coup

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chicagotim1 t1_j421dlc wrote

I think that this story has gotten an incredibly outsized amount of media attention. A congressional formality took an extra week than normal to get done. At the end of the day, that was about all that happened.

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Hungry_Bus_9695 t1_j42fjib wrote

Well not really

The role of the house speaker is dramatically different from the past. The whole axis of congress gas shifted to give way more power to rank and file law makers. Now anytime a major split happens in republican legislation any law makers and call a snap vote to change speakers, this is a huge deal if its done during a vote to say raise the debt ceiling. It shows alot of disunity in the party and a lack of any political vision besides sowing chaos

It also shows that any leash the republican leadership had on the freedom caucus is now gone and they will push grind the government to a halt if you don’t play ball. Considering they want things like abortion bans, impeaching Biden, over turning the last election…etc

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TheDarkSideGamer t1_j42pyws wrote

The representatives in the house have to elect a speaker. To do that, one person has to obtain a simple majority of the votes from the representatives. In all of the rounds leading up to the last one, the votes were split so that no one candidate has the majority.

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lafuntimes1 t1_j42w7rq wrote

Could you have possibly done a worse job visualizing this data? 90% of it is 1. Could have literally had a histogram OR 4 buckets. 3 votes and everyone else that matters. Hell your paragraph communicates data more efficiently than your graph.

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lafuntimes1 t1_j42xcsa wrote

Sorry I like getting sloppy irl instead of with my data. Maybe my comments were a bit harsh but I would expect better from someone with ‘4 years’ of data experience. Great job deflecting though.

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Weedyrainfall t1_j43j2zv wrote

Do....you....guys not know what happened in 1861?

Some of y'all are talking like you have no idea what happened right after 1859....

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Just_Looking_Busy t1_j43mgg0 wrote

I think this is absolutely fantastic. The fact that its taken this long for a party to say "no" to having someone installed as a leader of the people's house is wonderful. This should happen every time.

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ZetaZeta t1_j43u74b wrote

No, it's more concerning that individuals elected by wildly different ideologies don't disagree like this more often.

Debate, dissent, and compromise should be commonplace. It's actually about time there was some minute level of dissonance in congress rather than the uniparty machine we've had for a lifetime.

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ELVEVERX t1_j44kztp wrote

>No, it's more concerning that individuals elected by wildly different ideologies don't disagree like this more often.

This is a procedural decision it's not like debating legislation.

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Big_Migger69 t1_j44z4nq wrote

Kevin McCarthy needed 218 votes from the House of Representatives to become the Speaker of the House on round 1 he didn't get enough, so another round of voting occurred a bit later fast forward 14 more rounds and by round 15 he got the votes.

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LurkingChessplayer t1_j4532re wrote

I don’t understand why people are acting like this reflects poorly on house republicans? Like, they aren’t just blindly following the establishment, and are instead forcing concessions in return for their support. If people like AOC did this she’d be praised as fighting for the progressive wing, not lambasted for her party being disorganized

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Tato7069 t1_j45hn8r wrote

Because there are 20 or so maniacs in the party that caused this just for the sake of being dicks essentially... They asked for things in return for their vote, they got those things and then still wouldn't vote for Kevin Mccarthy. Pretty sure either party would get shit for that.

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thelancemann t1_j45zybm wrote

I'm sure everything in government will go just as great as it did from 1859 to 1865

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40for60 t1_j473o1d wrote

Electing the Speaker of the House is like electing a Prime Minister. The Speaker is the second most powerful political position in the US government and third in line for the Presidency after the Vice President. The House has the "power of the purse" meaning it controls the money. The House acts like shareholders, the Senate like a board of directors and the President like a CEO.

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